Since you're privy to the Big 12 - ND negotiations, what else haven't they told us? Are we going to become Catholic?
We could run four Divisions: GOD (Baylor/TCU/BYU POD), Devils (MO/UT/OU POD), Agnostics (TT/OSU/WVU), Mankind (ISU/KU/KSU)
Also the six game thing is from Chip Brown's article.
having ND in the Big 12 as a partial member is very bad for ISU, there is absolutely no upside other than them joining as a full member down the road. Looking at history it doesn't look they're all that interested in joining any conference.
Once again ISU benefits from tv contracts and equally now I might add. 3 probably Tier 1 games with ND helps us in our negotiations for our new tier 1 deal.
This is tough to say but if ISU was an equally valuable member is probably bad, but the fact is we bring amost nothing to the table for the Big 12 in football which is the only thing that matters. Ouch it hurts to say that. We have no choice in this conference or any other, so if it bolsters the conference for the long term than so be it. At least it provides a major conference home for the basketball team where we have a better chance of competing.
Big 12 North:
Notre Dame (Non-Football)
Big 12 South:
Why wouldn't this work?
Let's say the ND deal requires them to play both Texas and OU annually (this seems to be what Texas is seeking). Those marquee match ups alone along with the additions of TCU and WV more than replace any value that A&M and Mizzou brught to the table. Then, ND plays the 8 other conference members on a rotating basis (ie. home and homes 2 of every 4 years). ISU gets ND in Ames once every 4th year -- a guaranteed sell out. ND basketball would also be an above average draw. ND is closer to ISU than most conference schools for travel. Maybe ISU signs up to play ND in Soldier Field every once in a while also -- opening up opportunities for ISU to showcase itself in Chicago, a major recruiting hotbed that we have seldom tapped that sits only 6 hours down the road. It also helps open up Chicago to basketball recruiting potentially benefitting ISU as the closest Big 12 school to Chicago over any other member. Chicago becomes a possible close destination for the Big 12 basketball tournament as well.
With the $$$, recruiting and publicity benefits, it is a deal too good to pass up, IMO. I would like it even better if Louisville joined as a full member and BYU joined as a football only member to balance out the FB and basketball sides at 12 each. If you really wanted to create an uber basketball league at that point, you could also invite Villanova, St. John's, Georgetown and Marquette for basketball only to go to 16 for basketball, solidifying the Big 12 as the preeminent basketball conference. MSG then becomes the Big 12 conference tournament home (the only destination preferable to KC for me).
Definitely NO to Notre Dame joining as a half-assed member in only the sports it wants.
Right now IS the super-conference scenario, just not in the 4x16 way larry scott dreamed of.
What were the biggest problems with the old BCS vs Non-BCS leagues...
Big East never deserved an auto bid
ACC only deserved an auto bid half the time
MWC often deserved a bid every bit as much as the ACC and Big East.
EVERYTHING about that is now completely remedied.
1. Big East is losing the bid it never deserved and all or nearly all of it's members are finding a place in another AQ league.
2. ACC is more deserving of a bid now that it has 14 or 16 members instead of 12.
3. TCU and Utah have found BCS homes. BYU and BSU still might. Even if they don't the MWC/CUSA merger is basically a deserving way to grant a bid to one of 20-24 schools.
Super conferences are here. These auto bids could just as easily be auto playoff births.
Before you had 7 leagues. 4 definitely deserved AQ, 2 had one without deserving one, one didn't have one even though it deserved it as much as the other two.
Now you have 6 leagues. 4 of them are football powerhouses. ACC and MWC/CUSA are not powerhouses but at 16 or 20-24 teams they still deserve a bid. The ACC, Big East, CUSA, and MWC never deserved the same number of auto bids as the SEC and Big 12. Now that they are consolidated massive conferences it makes a lot more sense to give their winner an AQ every season.
Things could have ended much much worse than they did. If the chips fall predictably from here Notre Dame (back to thread topic) is the only wild card of major instability or AQ BCS/auto playoff bid controversy.
12 is a must regardless of what Mizzou does. 14 is something you do only if you can get the right teams involved imo.
The big question is you only go to 12, if BYU is in the mix or if it's all 3 Big East schools. Basically Cincy vs BYU. BYU is more of a sure thing in terms of putting fans in seats and in front of TV screens (really they're better than WVU in that respect), but Cincy has potential. That's my take.
Louisville is even more of a no brainer with WVU in for sure than they were before, wonder why they aren't even being announced in tandem. Pitt/Cuse was a package story.