5-4 with 3 games to go.....

**HFCS** · 11-05-2011, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by awd4cy

We have almost no chance at winning the rest of the games but I am okay with that. Also, I wont go too far and say no chance becasue stranger things have happened. This has still been a very interesting year and I am very happy with what Rhoads has done here. Also, it is crazy how good this conference has been this year. Nevertheless, my expectations are going to be higher next year.

We'll see how the B12 does in bowls, but I don't believe anyone has found a more impressive non-conf season by any conference in the modern era. In a week or two the B12 SOS rankings are just going to be a mix of 1-10. Maybe one or two B12 teams won't finish with a 1-10 SOS.

The crazy thing is, we're replacing Mizzou and the A&M Jar Jerkers with teams that have been SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER at the sport of football.

**clonedude** · 11-05-2011, 03:25 PM

I'm in no way saying we can beat OSU... BUT... one thing that we can hang our hat on is that OSU's overall defensive ranking is like 110th in the country. Which means, we'll probably score 13 pts on them like we did today against KU.

The bad part though, is that OSU is averaging 49.9 pts per game on offense.

IF, and this is a big if, but if we play like we did against TT... we might be able to keep the OSU game within reach in the 4th quarter. MIGHT. That's if OSU plays pretty bad too of course.

**cyatheart** · 11-05-2011, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by Clones21

About the only chance is KSU. OSU and OU could probably compete with some NFL teams.

HAAHAHAHA! You forgot the jimlad on the NFL thing there.

**cyfan15** · 11-05-2011, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by Clones21

Why are Cyclone fans fine with having an "Okay" season. I'm tired of the 5-7 seasons. I won't be happy with another 5 win season. We need to go bowling every year.

Maybe because we're still digging ourselves out of a big talent deficiency vs. most of the conference and we have a top ten schedule for the second year in a row. Rhoads' first full recruiting class are redshirt freshmen. Give it time. Rhoads' great coaching has made some people forget where we really stand right now.

**GoClones123** · 11-05-2011, 03:27 PM

I think K-state will be an interesting game for us. I also have a feeling about Oklahoma State, it could be the tailgating bratwurst that didn't look quite right but I ate anyways.

I was thinking and maybe one of your statistician types would know, how many ISU coaches into their 3rd season (9 games in) have had a .500 record? CPR is awesome.

**Clones21** · 11-05-2011, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by cyatheart

HAAHAHAHA! You forgot the jimlad on the NFL thing there.

I really didn't. No doubt in my mind they could stay in reach of the Colts and Dolphins right now.

**jaretac** · 11-05-2011, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by cyfan15

Maybe because we're still digging ourselves out of a big talent deficiency vs. most of the conference and we have a top ten schedule for the second year in a row. Rhoads' first full recruiting class are redshirt freshmen. Give it time. Rhoads' great coaching has made some people forget where we really stand right now.

You mean 3 years removed from 5-19?

**awd4cy** · 11-05-2011, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by megamanxzero35

I am not happy with that. I am not okay with that. I'm sad to see that you are.

Rebuilding take time, you have to be patient. Look at the job Gary Pinkel has done. He had losing seasons 3 out of his first 4 years and look where that program is at now. I am happy with where we are now but next year I will have higher expectations. You have to realize that our all time win percentage in football is about 30% and Rhoads is right around 50% in his first 3 years. Also, getting wins in this conference this year has never been tougher than any other year. This conference is insanely good this year top to bottom.

**Clones21** · 11-05-2011, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by awd4cy

Rebuilding take time, you have to be patient. Look at the job Gary Pinkel has done. He had losing seasons 3 out of his first 4 years and look where that program is at now. I am happy with where we are now but next year I will have higher expectations. You have to realize that our all time win percentage in football is about 30% and Rhoads is right around 50% in his first 3 years. Also, getting wins in this conference this year has never been tougher than any other year. This conference is insanely good this year top to bottom.

It does not take 10 years to rebuild. We need things to be rolling this year and next.

**FDWxMan** · 11-05-2011, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by Clones21

I really didn't. No doubt in my mind they could stay in reach of the Colts and Dolphins right now.

Colts or Dolphins - A lot
Oklahoma or OSU - A little.

And that's with the game played in Oklahoma.

**clonefanpaul** · 11-05-2011, 03:33 PM

Wow. We are 7th in the Big 12 right now. Who woulda guessed?

**awd4cy** · 11-05-2011, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by Clones21

I really didn't. No doubt in my mind they could stay in reach of the Colts and Dolphins right now.

LOL that is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. You are a moron.

**awd4cy** · 11-05-2011, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by Clones21

It does not take 10 years to rebuild. We need things to be rolling this year and next.

Don't understand where you are getting 10 years considering this is year 3

**cyatheart** · 11-05-2011, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by cyfan15

Maybe because we're still digging ourselves out of a big talent deficiency vs. most of the conference and we have a top ten schedule for the second year in a row. Rhoads' first full recruiting class are redshirt freshmen. Give it time. Rhoads' great coaching has made some people forget where we really stand right now.

Good post, everyone including myself need to remember this is a very long term process.

**Clones21** · 11-05-2011, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by awd4cy

Don't understand where you are getting 10 years considering this is year 3

I predicted ISU to win 7 games this year. That is still possible, but when you go around and say 5 wins is fine for you....well then you need to find another sport to cheer for. Five wins is not good enough for any Cyclone fan. This is year three, but it sounds like you would give Rhoads 10 years to try to build a winning program. Not me. If he isn't bringing the team to bowls consistently by year 6 or 7, I want him gone.