seniors

**CYVADER** · 11-22-2011, 06:49 PM

obviously in college every year you lose a group of guys that you have come to know on a number and name basis. you lose your senior leaders.

this year, we lose a LOT of leadership, and not just that, but our most talented group on seniors in a LONG time.

$-this board (myself included)has seemed to have a love/hate with this kid, but it's going to be tough to replace him. he has been a great red-zone target for us this year.

darks-surely seems replaceable, but he will likely end his career at #5 on the all time receptions list at isu

KO-do i even need to go into this loss? surely to be playing sundays

Hicks-possible late rounder, probably more likely to be a free agent signing, but none the less will get nfl looks

zimmerman-a position that can't be overlooked. will be interesting to see how we handle his replacement.

guyer/mahoney-guyers been steady and has experience. mahoney is GREAT on kickoffs. both will be missed NEXT year

LJ-playing on sunday, huge loss

Benton-maybe a free agent/late round guy, but a huge loss again, imo

Matt T-the overlooked LB. he is a huge part of our success this yr imo

jake latt/pat neal-who will beat either of their "motors" next year?

i'm enjoying the present, but we are losing a great core of our success this year that will be very difficult to just replace.

would love to hear thoughts on someone that's been to more games/practices than me as to who will step up at these positions next year.

edit-probably missing someone obvious, just a quick summation...

**CYVADER** · 11-22-2011, 07:03 PM

and how could i forget dutch. he's another huge loss-literally

**Yes13** · 11-22-2011, 07:18 PM

The only loss I think we'll really feel next year is LJ. Losing Benton's leadership will hurt, but I think Jacques is going to be one of our best players next year (if he isn't already) and he seems like a leader.

KO and Hayworth will be missed. KO can dominate, but I feel like we'll be replacing him with more mobile linemen, which can help. Hayworth is very good, but I've heard good things about Shaban Dika.

Money is a very good player, but he's dissapeared in some games.

I don;t think any of the Dlineman have really been game changers and can be replaced.

Matt T will be tough to replace against running teams. He's probably one of the better run stuffing LBs I've seen at ISU.

**skelly** · 11-22-2011, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by Yes13

The only loss I think we'll really feel next year is LJ. Losing Benton's leadership will hurt, but I think Jacques is going to be one of our best players next year (if he isn't already) and he seems like a leader.

KO and Hayworth will be missed. KO can dominate, but I feel like we'll be replacing him with more mobile linemen, which can help. Hayworth is very good, but I've heard good things about Shaban Dika.

Money is a very good player, but he's dissapeared in some games.

I don;t think any of the Dlineman have really been game changers and can be replaced.

Matt T will be tough to replace against running teams. He's probably one of the better run stuffing LBs I've seen at ISU.

I will miss Ter'ran "The Sheik" Benton the most.

**xboxfever** · 11-22-2011, 08:06 PM

The kickers will not be missed at all. Mahoney on kickoffs can be replaced also.

LJ, KO are future NFL players where Hicks could be. They will be missed greatly. Not going to replace them for a long time.

Benton is not an NFL player. He will be missed for a short period, but I think Broomfield will be better at this point in the season next year, than Benton is now.

No one on the defensive line will be missed. They all can be replaced, and upgraded.

**xboxfever** · 11-22-2011, 08:06 PM

The kickers will not be missed at all. Mahoney on kickoffs can be replaced also.

LJ, KO are future NFL players where Hicks could be. They will be missed greatly. Not going to replace them for a long time.

Benton is not an NFL player. He will be missed for a short period, but I think Broomfield will be better at this point in the season next year, than Benton is now.

No one on the defensive line will be missed. They all can be replaced, and upgraded.

**CYVADER** · 11-22-2011, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by xboxfever

The kickers will not be missed at all. Mahoney on kickoffs can be replaced also.

LJ, KO are future NFL players where Hicks could be. They will be missed greatly. Not going to replace them for a long time.

Benton is not an NFL player. He will be missed for a short period, but I think Broomfield will be better at this point in the season next year, than Benton is now.

No one on the defensive line will be missed. They all can be replaced, and upgraded.

agree to disagree on the kickers. we won't have one with ANY experience kicking next year. mahoney does a very good job of kicking out of the end zone and also his onsides are very well executed on his part.

i think benton could get looks just because of his versatility. broomfield is very good you are right but benton is still a big loss. and if broomfield replaces him, who replaces broomfield then-mattison? morgan-(btw what the hell happened to him)?

we lose 3 starters on our d-line-none are irreplaceable, but that's going to sting as a collective group

**skelly** · 11-22-2011, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by xboxfever

The kickers will not be missed at all. Mahoney on kickoffs can be replaced also.

LJ, KO are future NFL players where Hicks could be. They will be missed greatly. Not going to replace them for a long time.

Benton is not an NFL player. He will be missed for a short period, but I think Broomfield will be better at this point in the season next year, than Benton is now.

No one on the defensive line will be missed. They all can be replaced, and upgraded.

Sheik is going pro.

**RING4CY** · 11-22-2011, 08:24 PM

I won't miss LJ's mental lapses and lack of control of his emotions.

**Tedcyclone** · 11-22-2011, 08:28 PM

ouch, well im a lot nicer than most on here i guess. I will and always miss all seniors that ive invested money and time in watching over the years, and most importantly dedicated themselves to the cyclone nation family...

so go kick butt the next couple weeks, and in the bowl game, and get the most out of your lost couple months.

**CYVADER** · 11-22-2011, 08:30 PM

i agree, i personally am going to miss them all, as i do at the end of every season. i share a bond with them all-attending and for most of them graduating from isu. we are brothers in my book.

**Yes13** · 11-22-2011, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by RING4CY

I won't miss LJ's mental lapses and lack of control of his emotions.

Of course someone would say something stupid about LJ. He's the Diante of the football team. Best player we've had in quite some time, yet people still hate on him.

**CYVADER** · 11-22-2011, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by Yes13

Of course someone would say something stupid about LJ. He's the Diante of the football team. Best player we've had in quite some time, yet people still hate on him.

without him we get pasted against osu. no doubt in my mind. great cyclone who has had some bad moments-of which i've been critical, and deservedly so. that said you nailed it-he is going to be sorely missed.

**RING4CY** · 11-22-2011, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by Yes13

Of course someone would say something stupid about LJ. He's the Diante of the football team. Best player we've had in quite some time, yet people still hate on him.

What senior thinks it is a good idea to headbutt an opponent after having stopped them on a 3rd and 18? Then he gets flagged again against Kansas. He's still make stupid decisions he was making as a freshman (see UNLV game.) He clearly hasn't learned much in 4 years.

LJ is a great athlete, but him not being able to keep his emotions in check has become beyond frustrating.

**Yes13** · 11-22-2011, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by RING4CY

What senior thinks it is a good idea to headbutt an opponent after having stopped them on a 3rd and 18? Then he gets flagged again against Kansas. He's still make stupid decisions he was making as a freshman (see UNLV game.) He clearly hasn't learned much in 4 years.

LJ is a great athlete, but him not being able to keep his emotions in check has become beyond frustrating.

KO makes dumb mistakes too, but that doesn't take away from him being one of our best players.

LJ more than makes up for his mistakes.