Next step in recruiting

**buf87** · 11-24-2011, 10:12 AM

With all the hype around ISU football, do we or have we had any interest from any 4 and 5 star recruits? I have to think that some are starting to realize what CPR is doing with 2 and 3 star recruits and might start considering Iowa State.

**isuno1fan** · 11-24-2011, 10:16 AM

Honestly, I'm happy with the 3 stars. The others tend to have alot of baggage often. If we had a class of all 3 stars every year, I'd be thrilled.

**Stewo** · 11-24-2011, 10:16 AM

I wouldn't imagine that it'll make a big difference this season. Depending on how we finish out this season, it pay off pretty big next year.

**IowaStateClones** · 11-24-2011, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by isuno1fan

Honestly, I'm happy with the 3 stars. The others tend to have alot of baggage often. If we had a class of all 3 stars every year, I'd be thrilled.

Then you must be fine with being middle of the pack in the big 12

**isuno1fan** · 11-24-2011, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by IowaStateClones

Then you must be fine with being middle of the pack in the big 12

I believe you can win big with 3 star talent and good coaches. Good enough for you?

**Hawkeye11en1** · 11-24-2011, 10:20 AM

I hate to say it but it is going to take more than 1 big win a year to get those kids. There aren't many schools that pull in 4-5 star recruits. Start finishing higher in the b12 and you may get a few of those kids (not saying it can't happen now but it won't be multiple kids). But Iowa schools are never going to draw too many 4-5 star recruits anyway. Most of those kids are coming from out of state and are staying in those states.

**isuno1fan** · 11-24-2011, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by Hawkeye11en1

I hate to say it but it is going to take more than 1 big win a year to get those kids. There aren't many schools that pull in 4-5 star recruits. Start finishing higher in the b12 and you may get a few of those kids (not saying it can't happen now but it won't be multiple kids). But Iowa schools are never going to draw too many 4-5 star recruits anyway. Most of those kids are coming from out of state and are staying in those states.

Very true.

ISU needs to clean up in state (this year is a good start) and continue to find gems out of Texas, Florida, and California. We will do just fine with that and continue to improve.

I don't see 4 and 5 start talent at KSU and somehow they are challenging for a BCS spot.

**kas4cy** · 11-24-2011, 10:23 AM

I'm pretty happy with 3-star guys right now, but getting the occasional 4-star player is no question the next step. As much faults as the top-tier guys have (typically less intelligent and have egos/attitudes), there are good eggs in the lot.

**CYVADER** · 11-24-2011, 10:25 AM

there are literally (20) 5 star kids a year. that's it. we aren't getting any of em in my lifetime. be happy with the 3 and occasional 4 we get.

**bawbie** · 11-24-2011, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by kas4cy

I'm pretty happy with 3-star guys right now, but getting the occasional 4-star player is no question the next step. As much faults as the top-tier guys have (typically less intelligent and have egos/attitudes), there are good eggs in the lot.

that is a ridiculous statement.

**JUKEBOX** · 11-24-2011, 10:27 AM

Okie State is generally all three stars.

**dualthreat** · 11-24-2011, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by isuno1fan

I don't see 4 and 5 start talent at KSU and somehow they are challenging for a BCS spot.

kansas state makes a living on the run game, field position and playing smart football. Its ridiculous how successful they've been with average talent. Im envious of what they've done this year, but i really think we can go down there and beat them. ... but thats probably what every team thinks when they see how un-flashy they are.

**Hawkeye11en1** · 11-24-2011, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by bawbie

that is a ridiculous statement.

Agreed. There are some bad eggs but typically I'd say those kids turn out pretty well. And a lot of them are 4-5 star not only because they are talented but they are also football-smart as well.

**gogagig** · 11-24-2011, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by kas4cy

I'm pretty happy with 3-star guys right now, but getting the occasional 4-star player is no question the next step. As much faults as the top-tier guys have (typically less intelligent and have egos/attitudes), there are good eggs in the lot.

Wait, what?

**FootballinTexas** · 11-24-2011, 11:11 AM

http://www.press-citizen.com/article/20111124/SPORTS010104/311240017/Charles-Rogers-Offensive-Player-Year?odyssey=nav%7Chead

Why is this kid not rated higher than Rohach? California compared to Iowa. If Rogers was a Cali, Florida, or Texas guy he would be rated as a 4-5 star. It's all a matter of perception when it comes to these ratings. When you put 20 4-5 star guys on one team it a great team. When you only have one or two of them they have to be really great! It's hard to do it alone.