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    Re: Offensive Future at Wide Receiver

    ........I'm old enough to remember the awesomeness that was Hardemann/Stanley in the greatest offense ISU has ever had...and I'd be fine with reliving that kind of production from a PAIR of QB's..........


    Buddy and Wayne were quite a duo as I believe we ended up #2 in the nation in total offense that year. Didn't hurt that they had Blue and Hardy to throw to. Both QBs, Blue, and I think 5 others all got drafted to the NFL from that team. Amazing.
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    Re: Offensive Future at Wide Receiver

    There has to be another Todd Blythe out there some where doesn't there???!
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    Re: Offensive Future at Wide Receiver

    Quote Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY View Post
    Reynolds has 7 TDs and a 16 yards/catch average, with two more games to go. Hardly a disappointment imo. I am not disappointed in Darks, after watching him the past couple of years he has played like most anticipated.
    He also had 6 of those td's in the first 3-4 games since then only 1 with A LOT of drops! Overall, his season stats will be okay but not where they could/should be.


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    Re: Offensive Future at Wide Receiver

    Isnt Albert Gary being charged with 1st degree robbery? Whats the status on that, until thats settled and it comes out that he isnt guilty then I am not holding out hope he will be playing, which is a disappointment.

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    Re: Offensive Future at Wide Receiver

    The two guys I'm excited to "hopefully" see the field are Bundrage and Jennert. My only worry is Barnett's arm strength to get the ball down the field.

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    Re: Offensive Future at Wide Receiver

    Quote Originally Posted by cy4prez7 View Post
    He also had 6 of those td's in the first 3-4 games since then only 1 with A LOT of drops! Overall, his season stats will be okay but not where they could/should be.
    Same with every ISU WR sans Blythe in 20004/05. If you expected him to put up 10 TDs in Big 12 play, that is a you issue.

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    Re: Offensive Future at Wide Receiver

    I will say that I'm more excited to see next year's offense than I expected to be a few weeks ago. The young playmakers show some real promise, and this whole improving during the season thing has been nice to see. The last few games have really made it appear that Herman has a good thing building.
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    Re: Offensive Future at Wide Receiver

    Lampkin is fast fast fast - not sure how that translates to football fast, but his track accomplishments are nearly legendary in Nebraska with him being the first male in 19 years to win 4 gold medals at this years state track meet...

    You guys discussing real times, here's clocked numbers for you...

    100 meters - 10.69
    200 meters - 22.23

    if you were to extrapolate that rate down to 40 meters he would run a 4.276.....not sure but that seems fast!!!!

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    Re: Offensive Future at Wide Receiver

    Quote Originally Posted by KMAC_ATTACK View Post
    Lampkin is fast fast fast - not sure how that translates to football fast, but his track accomplishments are nearly legendary in Nebraska with him being the first male in 19 years to win 4 gold medals at this years state track meet...

    You guys discussing real times, here's clocked numbers for you...

    100 meters - 10.69
    200 meters - 22.23

    if you were to extrapolate that rate down to 40 meters he would run a 4.276.....not sure but that seems fast!!!!
    The problem is he's running probably 80-90M or so at full speed there, where he's only running 20-30M at full speed for his 40. A good first 10M will be somewhere in the area of 1.5 seconds.....taking this a little too far and adjusting for that, he'd run about a 4.55. That's essentially a guess though. Either way, the kid can fly.

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    Re: Offensive Future at Wide Receiver

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUFan22 View Post
    It's no secret that our senior receivers have been a disappointment this season. I wish them well and greatly look forward to the future of what we have at receiver for next season. I hope we can develop a big, downfield threat - as it's something our offense is sorely lacking.
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    Re: Offensive Future at Wide Receiver

    Quote Originally Posted by KMAC_ATTACK View Post
    Lampkin is fast fast fast - not sure how that translates to football fast, but his track accomplishments are nearly legendary in Nebraska with him being the first male in 19 years to win 4 gold medals at this years state track meet...

    You guys discussing real times, here's clocked numbers for you...

    100 meters - 10.69
    200 meters - 22.23

    if you were to extrapolate that rate down to 40 meters he would run a 4.276.....not sure but that seems fast!!!!
    I don't care what his 40 time is the kid absolutely can fly. Looking at the highlight video he is blowing by guys in the top division of Nebraska high school football like they running in sand. Will that translate into being a deep threat? Who knows, but being fast is a good start. Hopefully he will have the strength to get off the line.

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    Re: Offensive Future at Wide Receiver

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUFan22 View Post
    It's no secret that our senior receivers have been a disappointment this season. I wish them well and greatly look forward to the future of what we have at receiver for next season. I hope we can develop a big, downfield threat - as it's something our offense is sorely lacking.
    How will the ISU offense ever figure out if it has a deep threat when they only throw a couple of deep balls a game?

    I think ISU threw two deep balls against OU. On one for sure (and I think the second one as well), the ISU receiver had the OU defender beaten. The throw was not there.

    ISU receivers drop passes. That's on them. But the ISU offensive scheme doesn't do the receivers (or the QB) any favors. ISU rarely runs deep routes. The defensive secondary knows this, and they congest the area from the line of scrimmage to 15-20 yards downfield, where ISU's routes are primarily run. The QB has to make accurate passes and the recievers are always in traffic. As I mentioned in the another thread, ISU compresses the field on itself.

    It was interesting to watch OUs offense yesterday in person. The OU receivers stretch the field (they run deep routes even though they rarely passed to those receveivers yesterday) which opened up the 10-20 yd range. They had several wide open passes there.
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    Re: Offensive Future at Wide Receiver

    Quote Originally Posted by jbhtexas View Post
    How will the ISU offense ever figure out if it has a deep threat when they only throw a couple of deep balls a game?

    I think ISU threw two deep balls against OU. One one for sure (and I think the second one as well), the ISU receiver had the OU defender beaten. The throw was not there.

    ISU receivers drop passes. That's on them. But the ISU offensive scheme doesn't do the receivers (or the QB) any favors. ISU rarely runs deep routes. The defensive secondary knows this, and they congest the area from the line of scrimmage to 15-20 yards downfield, where ISU's routes are primarily run. The QB has to make accurate passes and the recievers are always in traffic. As I mentioned in the another thread, ISU compresses the field on itself.

    It was interesting to watch OUs offense yesterday in person. The OU receivers stretch the field (they run deep routes even though they rarely passed to those receveivers yesterday) which opened up the 10-20 yd range. They had several wide open passes there.
    Great post.
    It is a bad cycle for our passing game. We do not have the OU type athletes to consistently have deep threats. Thus Herman seemingly has removed vertical routes. So much so that the opposition can put tremendous pressure on our underneath based passing offense (which also makes it harder on the running game). All that congestion makes an already average YAC group even more average.

    I know we do not have great WRs, but you would think we would get big plays and more open WRs due simply to breakdowns on the defense.
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    Re: Offensive Future at Wide Receiver

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    No worries, he has already signed his LOI.
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    Re: Offensive Future at Wide Receiver

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    Greg Mcdermott proved LOI's are a farce....
    Comparing basketball (under McDermott no less) to a position change in football?

    He will play where ever he can get snaps, like the dozens of guys with similar LOI intentions before him.

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