Big XII - 2 in BCS??

**jdoggivjc** · 12-03-2011, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by alarson

The BCS doesnt have to 'explain' anything. At most all they have to say was 'they didnt even win the weak mountain west'. If they want to go farther they can bring up that KSU, OU, and OSU all have higher computer ratings than Boise State.

The BCS, after all, is mainly a way of allocating bowl spots amongst bowls that traditionally only gave those spots to those AQ conferences anyways. And as i recall it wont really be 'the bcs' deciding, but the individual bowls selecting according to their BCS selection order. Which one is going to select Boise?

OSU has a higher computer ranking than Alabama, yet we're going to be stuck with the LSU-Alabama rematch. You heard one of those schools didn't even win their division this year, right?

**hurdleisu24** · 12-03-2011, 06:42 PM

It will be interesting to see if the Voters bump OSU ahead Bama. If they beat OU big I think it could happen

**royhobbs09** · 12-03-2011, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by LivntheCyLife

Good point and that could definitely happen.

Seems like need to cheer for:

Houston not to fall below Michigan or TCU.
OU not to fall below Michigan or TCU (if they lose)
Baylor to jump Michigan.
LSU to win, but allow Georgia to keep it close, so that Georgia not fall below TCU
The loser of the Big 10 pillow fight not to fall below TCU.
Virginia Tech to win.

With Baylor winning the way they did against UT, seems to me that it will be hard for both TCU and Michigan to both end up in the top 14. In that event, seems like it will be OU, KSU and Boise as the potential choices for the last BCS spot.

**hurdleisu24** · 12-03-2011, 06:45 PM

TCU on;y has to be in top 16 and ahead of the Big east champ to get in

**alarson** · 12-03-2011, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by jdoggivjc

OSU has a higher computer ranking than Alabama, yet we're going to be stuck with the LSU-Alabama rematch. You heard one of those schools didn't even win their division this year, right?

Actually Alabama has a higher rating currently (on average) though that could possibly change if they beat OU tonight.

Also, those ratings averages are very close, only .02 apart currently, vs the .10, .12, and .25 differences of B12 teams to Boise State. (and youre talking about Alabama being #2 and OSU #3 compared to the wider spread between the b12's 3\5\6 and BSU's 9th place computer ranking)

**Rhoadhoused** · 12-03-2011, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by hurdleisu24

TCU on;y has to be in top 16 and ahead of the Big east champ to get in

To be a lock. Here is the deal. Boise State is out. Michigan is in. TCU is in if they do the above and get a locked position. If they aren't a lock, then a Big 12 team goes.

**IowaStFB** · 12-03-2011, 07:58 PM

Color me confused! Who do we want to win? OK or Okie St?

**alarson** · 12-03-2011, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by IowaStFB

Color me confused! Who do we want to win? OK or Okie St?

BCS wise i doubt it matters all that much. Unless OSU can kick OU's *** badly enough to get pollsters to bump them above alabama. Doubt that'll happen though.

**hurdleisu24** · 12-03-2011, 07:59 PM

Its likely not really going to matter. OU winning gives a better chance that Michigan won't get into the top 14 to be an atlarge selection. But OSU winning bu blow out could push them by Bama and into the title game

**Istate** · 12-03-2011, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by IowaStFB

Color me confused! Who do we want to win? OK or Okie St?

We needed OU to win this game. With OSU winning, OU will drop behind Michigan and maybe TCU in the polls. KSU doesn't have a chance to get a BCS bid as they aren't a good team and don't have the fan reputation needed. If Michigan is eligible, they'll go because they put butts in the seats and ratings on the TV.

**alarson** · 12-03-2011, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by Istate

We needed OU to win this game. With OSU winning, OU will drop behind Michigan and maybe TCU in the polls. KSU doesn't have a chance to get a BCS bid as they aren't a good team and don't have the fan reputation needed. If Michigan is eligible, they'll go because they put butts in the seats and ratings on the TV.

Will an OU loss really drop them that far? Not in the computers for sure, and itd be a fairly large poll drop as well.

**hurdleisu24** · 12-03-2011, 08:13 PM

Here's another couple of things to consider.
1. If Clemson wins they may jump Michigan in the BCS rankings.
2. If OSU blows out OU then maybe pollsters jump them over Alabama and into the title game. If that's the case then the Sugar takes Alabama and you have Michigan vs Bama to start next year's season so the 2 schools may not want that match up.

**Lewdawg123** · 12-03-2011, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by hurdleisu24

Here's another couple of things to consider.
1. If Clemson wins they may jump Michigan in the BCS rankings.
2. If OSU blows out OU then maybe pollsters jump them over Alabama and into the title game. If that's the case then the Sugar takes Alabama and you have Michigan vs Bama to start next year's season so the 2 schools may not want that match up.

There's no way pollsters will jump #5 OSU over #2 Alabama. Even if they win 80-0

**SvrWxCy** · 12-03-2011, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by Istate

We needed OU to win this game. With OSU winning, OU will drop behind Michigan and maybe TCU in the polls. KSU doesn't have a chance to get a BCS bid as they aren't a good team and don't have the fan reputation needed. If Michigan is eligible, they'll go because they put butts in the seats and ratings on the TV.

I don't think you would see the computers drop them by more than 2 spots and I doubt you would have voters push them much more than 4-5 spots regardless of the loss. So you are looking at OU falling to 12-13, perhaps 14 at worse if they lose bad; in other words they are not dropping behind Michigan even with a loss to the #2/3 ranked team.

Michigan doesn't play, so it is all up to the teams around them. At this point Houston will take a big drop, but I'm not sure if it would be enough to fall below Michigan. You're looking a both Georgia and perhaps the B1G loser to fall below them, then they have to hope that either TCU or Baylor can't jump ahead of them (note I firmly believe Baylor will pass them) thus odds still seem to be against Michigan at this point.