gotta hope okie state gets to the national

[JUKEBOX]

Teach me how to Gundy. Bedlam Edition.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72gztVHrPXw&feature=player_embedded]DSC 0917 - YouTube[/ame]

[tim_redd]

I can see both sides.. I get the "Bama had their chance" argument..but should they be punished because their one loss was against the other team in the championship? Ignoring that part of it, Bama lost to the #1 team in the country while OSU lost to an unranked team later in the year than Bama.. I'm all for OSU getting a shot for entertainments sake, just not sure they deserve it more.. and I definately don't think they're the better of the two teams..but the only way to know that is to give OSU the shot.. hmmm..I don't know what I think.

Don't get hung up on the losses. Look at the teams they actually beat.

[bosco]

Isn't bama like 3-1 vs top 40? Or was it top 20? I don't think they are hands down #2. I def. lean towards OSU being better than bama. They had ever advantage to beat LSU and couldn't get it done. They missed many shots at it and proved they aren't #1. They have no excauses. They are supposed to have the best home field advantage in the country. Lost at home. Should be done. We have our answer for LSU/bama. Why not get the answer for
the most legitamate contender.

Yep if there is a rematch it doesn't prove anything except that LSU or ALA is the best team in the SEC. Which we already know.

[IowaStateClones]

So if Bama gets the chance and wins, how are they an actual champion? 1-1 against the team can not define a champion.

[bosco]

I can see both sides.. I get the "Bama had their chance" argument..but should they be punished because their one loss was against the other team in the championship? Ignoring that part of it, Bama lost to the #1 team in the country while OSU lost to an unranked team later in the year than Bama.. I'm all for OSU getting a shot for entertainments sake, just not sure they deserve it more.. and I definately don't think they're the better of the two teams..but the only way to know that is to give OSU the shot.. hmmm..I don't know what I think.

That is why OSU should be #2 because we don't know. We already know that LSU is better than ALA so we need to know if LSU is better than the next best team which is OSU.

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

I think of it this way... If a loss to ISU in double overtime is enough to keep OSU from jumping the rematch situation with Bama, then everyone seriously has it in for ISU. We made a bowl people... We're not a pushover like people make us out to be.

A loss to a 6-6 team in overtime.

A loss to the undefeated #1 in overtime.

I don't want to see Bama in the NC game either but it's tuff to compare the losses.

OSU's argument is total body of work.

[Rhoadhoused]

I will never understand why people compare losses and not wins. OSU has beaten a ton of good teams to get where they are. Alabama has not lost to a bunch of average teams to get where they are. The choice is easy.

[NATEizKING]

If it were the case of a Big 12 team being the only undefeated and #1 and then a Big 12 team and SEC team with one loss battling for the other spot, they would hands down choose the SEC team.

[isuchicago]

I will never understand why people compare losses and not wins. OSU has beaten a ton of good teams to get where they are. Alabama has not lost to a bunch of average teams to get where they are. The choice is easy.

OSU has a good resume, but how can you say the choice is easy?? 4 teams alabama beat were ranked when they played..some of them dropped out of the rankings by getting blown out by bama and lsu. Bama beat the ranked teams on their schedule by an average of 24. OSU beat their ranked teams by an ave of 13.5(including the OU game) OSU had some tough, close games. Bama had 1 OT loss, and 11 blowouts.

That aside, looks like OSU will get a chance to settle the argument. They're only a few points behind in both polls..with the way the computers love them, I'd be surprised if Bama was still #2 in the BCS. Which makes for much better tv..I didnt want to see the rematch either.

[CyJack13]

A loss to a 6-6 team in overtime.

A loss to the undefeated #1 in overtime.

I don't want to see Bama in the NC game either but it's tuff to compare the losses.

OSU's argument is total body of work.

Where was this argument in 2006? Michigan had a much better loss than Florida, they should have gotten a chance at a rematch with OSU.

If these teams had the same resumes and were Oklahoma and Miss St. instead of Alabama and Oklahoma St, the B12 team would get in easily. Alabama is just living off of their reputation.

[cydswipe]

What really upset me this morning was ESPN's Robert Smith making the statement that OkSt. losing had something to do with the tragic loss of their women's BB staff. It wasn't so much that ISU is a tough place to play, okSt. just had a lot on their minds.

[isuchicago]

Where was this argument in 2006? Michigan had a much better loss than Florida, they should have gotten a chance at a rematch with OSU.

If these teams had the same resumes and were Oklahoma and Miss St. instead of Alabama and Oklahoma St, the B12 team would get in easily. Alabama is just living off of their reputation.

True.. also I think a lot of people give too much credit to actual talent, and not what the team does. Even if Alabama hadn't been destroying everyone but LSU, you hear the idiots at ESPN talking about the "eye test".. yes, Alabama has more talent, but that shouldn't matter..it should go off how they perform, not how many future nfl players they have.

[Tredici]

I think the biggest stat that gets me is the - Wins vs. Ranked Teams and Wins vs. Bowl Eligible Teams. OSU pans out far better in both these categories.

[CyJack13]

True.. also I think a lot of people give too much credit to actual talent, and not what the team does. Even if Alabama hadn't been destroying everyone but LSU, you hear the idiots at ESPN talking about the "eye test".. yes, Alabama has more talent, but that shouldn't matter..it should go off how they perform, not how many future nfl players they have.

Agreed. If the BCS was based on the eye test, USC should have been in the BCS title game five or six times under Pete Carroll. They would always lose one game to a Stanford or Oregon St that they had no business losing too, but they always aced the "eye test".

If it is Alabama and LSU, I think LSU should win the title no matter what happens in the game. Their resume is so far ahead of Alabama's that losing to Alabama on a neutral field wouldn't be enough for me to move them below Alabama.

[isuchicago]

I can't wait for the chaos when its announced that Bama is #2 in both the AP and coaches poll, but #3 in the bcs.. ******* off the SEC guys can't hurt to help bring down the BCS..we did our part to help.