Albert Gary - Court Update ISD

**ISUAgronomist** · 12-09-2011, 04:46 PM

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ISU WR Albert Gary pleads not guilty to 1st degree robbery charge. Trial will begin post bowl game (Feb. 14)

Gary pleads not guilty, trial set to begin in February - Iowa State Daily: Sports

**DRCHIRO** · 12-09-2011, 04:55 PM

So what is the possibility that the last we see of Albert Gary in a Cyclone uniform is the bowl game?

**Cyclonepride** · 12-09-2011, 05:07 PM

I'd be interesting in hearing both sides of the full story. The one floating around here seems to make 1st degree robbery seem to be way overboard, but who knows?

**ISUAgronomist** · 12-09-2011, 05:08 PM

Unless they throw the book at an alleged first-time offender that has been cooperating with authorities he'll be available to play IMO.

**Cycsk** · 12-09-2011, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by ISUAgronomist

Gary pleads not guilty, trial set to begin in February - Iowa State Daily: Sports

I get so tired of athletes (and other students) doing stupid things and then the police and judges (or victims) making too big a deal of it. I still can't believe that Berryman did jail time for his incident. Some punk on the street got the last laugh on that one, but I'll bet he still flinches every time a big black guy appears in his peripheral vision!

**ISUAgronomist** · 12-09-2011, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by Cycsk

I get so tired of athletes (and other students) doing stupid things and then the police and judges (or victims) making too big a deal of it. I still can't believe that Berryman did jail time for his incident. Some punk on the street got the last laugh on that one, but I'll bet he still flinches every time a big black guy appears in his peripheral vision!

Thankfully, we have a fair, peer-based judicial system to decide the outcome on the merits of each case.

**SplitIdentity** · 12-09-2011, 05:23 PM

Given the high horses on here when other teams play players who are waiting on a court date for something like this, I'm surprised there isn't more outrage that he played in the last 6 games of the season?

I mean, shouldn't there also be outrage that he "somehow got his court date conveniently pushed to after the season?"

Sarcasm should be noted.

And, for the record, I stand by what I've always said, innocent until proven guilty, and Rhoads made the right decision by only giving him a three game suspension to start the season, and reserving punishment for AFTER the ruling.

**Cycsk** · 12-09-2011, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by SplitIdentity

Given the high horses on here when other teams play players who are waiting on a court date for something like this, I'm surprised there isn't more outrage that he played in the last 6 games of the season?

I mean, shouldn't there also be outrage that he "somehow got his court date conveniently pushed to after the season?"

Sarcasm should be noted.

And, for the record, I stand by what I've always said, innocent until proven guilty, and Rhoads made the right decision by only giving him a three game suspension to start the season, and reserving punishment for AFTER the ruling.

It does start with athletes doing stupid things. I know they get taunted and are often held to a different standard than other students. However, they just have to man up and not make petty yet criminal mistakes. It is not a bad lifeskill to learn.

**SplitIdentity** · 12-09-2011, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by Cycsk

It does start with athletes doing stupid things. I know they get taunted and are often held to a different standard than other students. However, they just have to man up and not make petty yet criminal mistakes. It is not a bad lifeskill to learn.

Completely agree. I have no problem with athletes being disciplined on an individual basis. Gary could be an otherwise standup guy, who got caught up in something stupid, or he could could be a complete *******. I don't know him personally, so I trust those who do (his coaches) to hand out a fair punishment. If Rhoads believes he's innocent and was in the wrong place at the wrong time (or something to that effect), I'll trust his judgement.

**Yes13** · 12-09-2011, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by SplitIdentity

Given the high horses on here when other teams play players who are waiting on a court date for something like this, I'm surprised there isn't more outrage that he played in the last 6 games of the season?

I mean, shouldn't there also be outrage that he "somehow got his court date conveniently pushed to after the season?"

Sarcasm should be noted.

And, for the record, I stand by what I've always said, innocent until proven guilty, and Rhoads made the right decision by only giving him a three game suspension to start the season, and reserving punishment for AFTER the ruling.

sssshhhhhh, if you keep quiet the high horse riders won't come.

**CYlent Bob** · 12-09-2011, 05:50 PM

Can I weigh in from on top of my Shetland Pony?

He got a 3 game suspension just for being charged with this crime. If he's convicted of anything, I have faith that Coach Rhoads will impose another penalty on him after that happens, if it's necessary.

Berryman? He's a bad example of someone in the "wrong place at the wrong time". Dude went out of his way to cross the street and punch some moke on the street....then Suuuuuuuuuper Genius Berryman steals the victim's phone? If he had stopped with the punch, he would have gotten off with a slap on the wrist; however the theft charge for stealing that damn phone (and using violence to do so) is what got him sent to the Graybar Hotel.

I think Berryman is an idiot, but at the same time I cut him a lot of slack because (unlike a certain sexual assualt and assault charge collector from the Iowa Basketball program) he did the time for his crime. Nine months in the Story County Jail for assault and stealing a phone? Might be excessive, but he sure as hell didn't have to put himself in that position in the first place.

**Cychotiic** · 12-09-2011, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by DRCHIRO

So what is the possibility that the last we see of Albert Gary in a Cyclone uniform is the bowl game?

0, if he gets convicted of this I will be even more appalled of this justice system.

**Omaha Cy** · 12-09-2011, 07:57 PM

Was Berryman provoked somehow? I don't recall the details....he just decided out of the blue to do that? In no way trying to relieve any of the blame on him, just curious.