Rutgers 2011 Results

**cymaniac17** · 12-12-2011, 01:10 PM

sorry but the Big East is a joke. ISU goes 9-3 at worst with that schedule, and more than likely 10-2 or 11-1 with a small chance at going undefeated. Im not saying that because i think ISU is really really good or anything, its more about how bad the big east was this year. Does ANY team on that schedule scare you?? I honestly think any team in the big 12, other than kansas and texas tech, would have had a legit shot at winning the big east this year.

**bosco** · 12-12-2011, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by Cycsk

Don't know how all this works, but I have to think our big losses really hurt us. Rutgers only loss over 10 points was the last game at UConn (lost by 18). We lost to Texas by 23, Baylor by 23, Missouri by 35, A&M by 16, and Oklahoma by 20.

As in the previous post I made a goof. But the margin of victory does hurt ISU that is why the Predictor is close since that takes in account the MOV. However the ELO-Chess only takes in account victories which has us rated high. We are ranked 21 there. So basically it shows us our wins are of higher quality than RU but the butt kickings brings us down. However the way we finished the season which gets over looked is probably a better indicator of the team.

**djcubby** · 12-12-2011, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by Cycsk

Don't know how all this works, but I have to think our big losses really hurt us. Rutgers only loss over 10 points was the last game at UConn (lost by 18). We lost to Texas by 23, Baylor by 23, Missouri by 35, A&M by 16, and Oklahoma by 20.

And all of those but Missouri were top 25 teams when we played them. Rutgers has only played one top 25 team (WV @ home) and lost by 10. Texas, Baylor, A&M at the time, and Oklahoma are all better teams than WV has been this year.

**IowaSTATCyclone** · 12-12-2011, 01:42 PM

Rutgers at home is no picnic. They destroyed Pitt at home, something that our closely defeated little sisters in I.C. couldn't come close to doing (reminder: they were getting blown out, became the one-time anti-O'Keefe, and narrowly won).

Is Pitt any good? Obviously no.

Is UConn? Also, no. That is a terrible, mistake prone game to end a season on. We can hope that the mistakes of that game sort of fester into overcorrection for them, but with Schiano, I would not count on that.

Our effort at UConn was obviously superior, but we all need to keep in mind that UConn is a thug dumpster. Not a festive, good-natured place to play. So we played ugly and won, and Rutgers played very ugly and lost.

The problem is that UConn's defensive line had the skill to hold the run and produce sacks. That's the one part of UConn that is superior to our counterpart.

In other words, we may not be able to do to Rutgers what UConn could. Our defense may have to beat them at their strength (WR) not at their weakness (line).

Turnovers have been timely this year, when they've come for us, but I would not say that we are exactly proficient at winning the turnover battle! Not like UConn is.

UConn is interesting in that their offense is so anemic, even though the defense tends to get lots of turnovers and forceouts.

So, as well as UConn played Rutgers, we won't (necessarily) be able to follow that same map toward success: that map emphasized areas that are away from, not within, our defensive strengths.

**cyclonespiker33** · 12-12-2011, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by RING4CY

They have one win against a team with a winning record (Ohio).

Ohio (9-4)
Cincinnati (9-3)

**KnightSweats** · 12-12-2011, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by RING4CY

They have one win against a team with a winning record (Ohio).

ISU also had 2 wins against teams with a winning record (Iowa, OSU) OSU was more of a quality win than RU had, but you can argue that the team's head really wasn't in the game.

So your point is kinda lost on me.

CyBer · 12-12-2011, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by KnightSweats

ISU had 3 wins against teams with a winning record (Iowa, Kansas, OSU) OSU was more of a quality win than RU had, but you can argue that the team's head really wasn't in the game.

So your point is kinda lost on me.

Rutgers plays in the Big East, Iowa State plays in the Big 12. Does that help?

**KnightSweats** · 12-12-2011, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by CyBer

Rutgers plays in the Big East, Iowa State plays in the Big 12. Does that help?

Can't argue that point.

**CyFan61** · 12-12-2011, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by KnightSweats

OSU was more of a quality win than RU had, but you can argue that the team's head really wasn't in the game.

Lame argument. OSU was playing great and up 24-7 until **** hit the fan. I call this the "Dick Vitale" excuse due to how much that old fool posted about it on Twitter.

CyBer · 12-12-2011, 03:39 PM

Yeah it's pretty sad that people are saying "the only reason OSU lost was because of that plane crash" Complete ********. I doubt that any of their football players knew any of the coaches of the girls basketball team.

**St810s** · 12-12-2011, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by KnightSweats

ISU had 3 wins against teams with a winning record (Iowa, Kansas, OSU) OSU was more of a quality win than RU had, but you can argue that the team's head really wasn't in the game.

So your point is kinda lost on me.

Maybe I missed something here...

**KnightSweats** · 12-12-2011, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by St810s

Maybe I missed something here...

Oops! My bad. Fixed it

**bostrem00** · 12-12-2011, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by KnightSweats

ISU had 3 wins against teams with a winning record (Iowa, Kansas, OSU) OSU was more of a quality win than RU had, but you can argue that the team's head really wasn't in the game.

So your point is kinda lost on me.

Based on what? It seems like you forgot or ignorant of the fact that OSU was up 24-7 in the 3rd quarter....

**KnightSweats** · 12-12-2011, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by bostrem00

Based on what? It seems like you forgot or ignorant of the fact that OSU was up 24-7 in the 3rd quarter....

I'm not trying to dilute the win, but, based on experience, these types of things can affect the team. When LeGrand had his injury, Rutgers ended the season 0-6 following that game. I hate to blame the performance of the team on that, because we had an inept OC that year, but it's something that can't be quantified.

CyBer · 12-12-2011, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by KnightSweats

I'm not trying to dilute the win, but, based on experience, these types of things can affect the team. When LeGrand had his injury, Rutgers ended the season 0-6 following that game. I hate to blame the performance of the team on that, because we had an inept OC that year, but it's something that can't be quantified.

OSU didn't lose the game because of the plane crash, they lost the game because we came to play and they thought we were going to be a pushover.