Penn State vacancy

**cyfanatic** · 12-12-2011, 08:22 PM

My opinion is that if they doubled (or even more than that) PR's salary...then he has no choice but to seriously consider that move! The two issues (Paterno & Sandusky) are gone...that is a top 10 job no matter what the feeling that is associated with that school right now! When I was young I thought loyalty comes before anything when it came to sports...not anymore. If he could muster a 5 year - $15 million or more a year offer...he would be crazy to turn it down! Just trying to be real...that said...who knows if the Penn State athletic department would even consider him.

**DistrictCyclone** · 12-12-2011, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by cyfanatic

My opinion is that if they doubled (or even more than that) PR's salary...then he has no choice but to seriously consider that move! The two issues (Paterno & Sandusky) are gone...that is a top 10 job no matter what the feeling that is associated with that school right now! When I was young I thought loyalty comes before anything when it came to sports...not anymore. If he could muster a 5 year - $15 million or more a year offer...he would be crazy to turn it down! Just trying to be real...that said...who knows if the Penn State athletic department would even consider him.

Far from it. Sandusky's yet to go to trial; who knows what kind of messy garbage will come out of that. McQueary is still there, and he's looking pretty ugly right now, too.

These negative headlines and their association with Penn State will be here for a long, long time; it's going to be one huge albatross around PSU's neck for a while.

**Al_4_State** · 12-12-2011, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by cyfanatic

My opinion is that if they doubled (or even more than that) PR's salary...then he has no choice but to seriously consider that move! The two issues (Paterno & Sandusky) are gone...that is a top 10 job no matter what the feeling that is associated with that school right now! When I was young I thought loyalty comes before anything when it came to sports...not anymore. If he could muster a 5 year - $15 million or more a year offer...he would be crazy to turn it down! Just trying to be real...that said...who knows if the Penn State athletic department would even consider him.

Why?

He makes more money than he'd ever need at ISU, he's close to his family, and he seemingly loves his job.

Yes, I understand that most people would seriously consider any doubling of their salary, but I think it hardly means he has no choice here. Paul Rhoads will continue to make an obscene amount of $ as the ISU head coach.

**mikem** · 12-13-2011, 01:52 AM

Originally Posted by Bader

Like the back of a Volkswagen?

+1 for the Mallrats reference.

**ISUboi12** · 12-13-2011, 04:48 AM

If I were Paul Rhoads I would certainly entertain that offer. It is purely subjective where the right fit is for someone. Maybe CPR would like to go back to Pennsylvania. Head coach of football at Penn State is a good job for 99.9999% of people on this planet and now with low expectations it might be the best time to be there from an economic standpoint.

It looks ridiculous when random posters on this board dismiss any speculation with deluded bias. As if they have some sort of shared thoughts system with CPR. Stop embarrassing yourself.

**jsb** · 12-13-2011, 06:58 AM

I don't think he is going. But if I was Penn State, he'd be exactly what I was looking for. What Penn State needs now is a guy who is crazy enthusiastic and can focus the team on football. They need a Paul Rhoads type.

**Cyclonepride** · 12-13-2011, 07:04 AM

No established head coach will want to walk into the firestorm that is Penn State for quite some time. This **** is going to take quite a while to shake out, and I'm not sure who would want to go into a situation like that if they have high major options.

**jsb** · 12-13-2011, 07:04 AM

Originally Posted by ISUboi12

If I were Paul Rhoads I would certainly entertain that offer. It is purely subjective where the right fit is for someone. Maybe CPR would like to go back to Pennsylvania. Head coach of football at Penn State is a good job for 99.9999% of people on this planet and now with low expectations it might be the best time to be there from an economic standpoint.

It looks ridiculous when random posters on this board dismiss any speculation with deluded bias. As if they have some sort of shared thoughts system with CPR. Stop embarrassing yourself.

People point to Rhoads' excitement about the Cyclones as the reason he'll never leave. But I think he would be that excited to coach no matter what school he was at. It's the team that gets him excited. Not so much the school.

I don't think he is going anywhere this year because the fans did their part. But.....if the fans hadn't done their part with attendance and arriving early, etc, then I think we could have lost him.

**ketchupnmustard** · 12-13-2011, 07:11 AM

Has Penn State filled its AD position yet? If not, I would think this would be PSU's first step.

**isuforlife** · 12-13-2011, 07:41 AM

who would step in to that mess, CPR is way to smart to do that

**Cyballz** · 12-13-2011, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by Bader

Like the back of a Volkswagen?

he said hot, not uncomfortable

**ribsnwhiskey** · 12-13-2011, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by ISUboi12

If I were Paul Rhoads I would certainly entertain that offer. It is purely subjective where the right fit is for someone. Maybe CPR would like to go back to Pennsylvania. Head coach of football at Penn State is a good job for 99.9999% of people on this planet and now with low expectations it might be the best time to be there from an economic standpoint.

It looks ridiculous when random posters on this board dismiss any speculation with deluded bias. As if they have some sort of shared thoughts system with CPR. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Who the **** are you? I'm not embarrassed to say that I think Paul Rhoads or any other current head coach, BCS conference or not, would be making a mistake in taking that position right now. You have to be some kind of moron not to understand that point of view. It appears you are.

**IowaSTATCyclone** · 12-13-2011, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by ribsnwhiskey

Who the **** are you? I'm not embarrassed to say that I think Paul Rhoads or any other current head coach, BCS conference or not, would be making a mistake in taking that position right now. You have to be some kind of moron not to understand that point of view. It appears you are.

Penn State is not a good job right now. Federal cops and investigative reporters are rooting around that swamp to see how far this trail goes - if there's a child trafficking ring, and so on, and that top administrators and donors were involved, either in the cover-up (Spanier) or the actual trade. There's also that little bit about the mysteriously vanished/murdered DA.

If (and this is a big "if", a huge "if", I'd go as far to say an unlikely "if", but not unlikely enough) it's a much bigger cesspool than right now appears, they end up being on the hook, not for millions, but a billion or more.

A sane, qualified coach won't touch that job until the investigations are further along down the line. Right now, the only candidates who make sense are insiders who have a stake in "righting" a disgraced program, and guys not ready (and maybe never ready) for big time football: Bill Callahan, for example - or someone else desperate enough to take a gamble at being tainted and hobbled by Poison State.

Now, as soon as the smoke clears, and it is satisfactorily shown that Sandusky was a guy with friends who used his relationships as cover to torture children - but that's all - then, and only then, will it become a job that will again attract quality, non-insider candidates.

Right now, the disgustingly understated - but that's all - is not a certainty. Until it is a certainty, neither is the quality of the football program's future leadership.

**longtimeclone** · 12-13-2011, 10:16 AM

[QUOTE=IowaSTATCyclone;2570179]Right now, the only candidates who make sense are insiders who have a stake in "righting" a disgraced program, and guys not ready (and maybe never ready) for big time football: Bill Callahan, for example - or someone else desperate enough to take a gamble at being tainted and hobbled by Poison State. QUOTE]

I think the best thing they can do is take a chance on someone young outside of the program. I think they need a new face and absolutely cannot hire within. If the coach works out then good, if not then go after another high profile coach. Hopefully by then the trial is over.

**IowaSTATCyclone** · 12-13-2011, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaSTATCyclone

Right now, the only candidates who make sense are insiders who have a stake in "righting" a disgraced program, and guys not ready (and maybe never ready) for big time football: Bill Callahan, for example - or someone else desperate enough to take a gamble at being tainted and hobbled by Poison State. QUOTE]

I think the best thing they can do is take a chance on someone young outside of the program. I think they need a new face and absolutely cannot hire within. If the coach works out then good, if not then go after another high profile coach. Hopefully by then the trial is over.

I don't think this ends at the trial. I'm not saying that there is more to be uncovered institutionally, but the institutional investigation and scrutiny is going to drag on longer than the trial, perhaps for an additional few years, if you include any further revelations.

Worst case scenario is worse than the Catholic Church scandal outcome - if a smoking gun for child trafficking shows up on the radar, that will effectively shut down the college's programs (including some academic programs - Spanier's Human Studies one, or whatever that is called) indefinitely.

Non-worst case scenario is going to take 2-3 years to clear up. Until that time, no one good will take the job, regardless of the cash on the table. It isn't a good opportunity right now for qualified coaches.

My most optimistic guess is that they are back on their feet in 2015 and finally ready to start fresh. Until then, they'll either tread water with insiders or the unqualified until then.

In other words, they are in the Turner Gill - type market, not the Les Miles - type market. Temporarily, one would assume.