Gill hired

**acoustimac** · 12-15-2011, 12:06 PM

Liberty...and FCS school in Virginia has named Turner Gill head coach. A big step back, but all things considered he has a lot to prove.
FCS school Liberty Flames hire ex-Kansas Jayhawks coach Turner Gill - ESPN

**Clones21** · 12-15-2011, 12:08 PM

He should of went on to be a coordinator some where.

**CycloneWarning** · 12-15-2011, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by Clones21

He should of went on to be a coordinator some where.

Tend to agree. Couple years as a coordinator and he would have gotten picked back up by a MAC school for HC. If he struggles at this little crappy school, he may be kissing his career goodbye.

Course, it is not like he needs the money. Maybe he wants to take a step back and work at a school with much less pressure.

**BleedCycloneRed** · 12-15-2011, 03:10 PM

Liberty is also a school with a strong religious message, which I think ties in with Gill's thinking. They may been a major impedus for his going there. Leslie Frazier got his start at Trinity College in Lincolnshire, IL. Similar situation (although Frazier had not be recently fired).

**Drive4cy** · 12-15-2011, 03:14 PM

Great hire for Liberty.

**trajanJ** · 12-15-2011, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneWarning

Tend to agree. Couple years as a coordinator and he would have gotten picked back up by a MAC school for HC. If he struggles at this little crappy school, he may be kissing his career goodbye.

Course, it is not like he needs the money. Maybe he wants to take a step back and work at a school with much less pressure.

He doesn't have that skill. He's never been a coordinator at any level. This is actually a great job for him. A very religious school like this might attract players that will believe in his message.

**TRZA** · 12-15-2011, 04:10 PM

He is one of the best head coaches in college football today. Don't be surprised if some big name programs start calling him in a few months.

**GoSTATE71** · 12-15-2011, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by TRZA

He is one of the best head coaches in college football today. Don't be surprised if some big name programs start calling him in a few months.

LOL because of all that success in a BCS conference right?

**ManofCyience** · 12-15-2011, 05:06 PM

So after his 5-19 record at Kansas, this means that Liberty will win the National Championship in two years

**Tredici** · 12-15-2011, 05:09 PM

People give the guy too much hate for his 5-19 record. I can see Kansas program struggle for years to come with or without him.

**Cycsk** · 12-15-2011, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by BleedCycloneRed

Liberty is also a school with a strong religious message, which I think ties in with Gill's thinking. They may been a major impedus for his going there. Leslie Frazier got his start at Trinity College in Lincolnshire, IL. Similar situation (although Frazier had not be recently fired).

Nice analogy to the Les Frazier at Trinity situation. It could be just a starting point for him that could lead to other things. The difference is that Trinity is fairly small-scale (never having played even a Division IA team in anything) and Liberty has a big-time athletic program and can actually compete with Division I schools in football, basketball, and especially baseball. Liberty could be a destination job.

**ISpyCy** · 12-15-2011, 05:21 PM

Part of what drew Liberty to hire Gill was his religious beliefs. I think this is a good hire for him, but also think that Kansas let him go too quickly. Sure, he wasn't having much success within his two year tenure, but it takes time to turn a team around...not to mention it was fun beating up on his Jayhawks while we could.

Best of luck to him; I think this will be a more rewarding venture for him.

**ItsCyence** · 12-15-2011, 05:29 PM

I think he can succeed at this school. Hope it happens.

**alarson** · 12-15-2011, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by GoSTATE71

LOL because of all that success in a BCS conference right?

Hell, its not like he even did wonders at buffalo. He had one decent season where he squeaked out an 7-5 season against a MAC schedule (3 wins in OT, another by 2 pts), and then regressed back to 5-7 in 09.

I never understood the huge love for the guy. I mean, sure, after that 8 win season maybe you go 'ok, maybe he deserves a shot somewhere'... but the love some had for him was way over the top.

**alarson** · 12-15-2011, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by ISpyCy

Part of what drew Liberty to hire Gill was his religious beliefs. I think this is a good hire for him, but also think that Kansas let him go too quickly. Sure, he wasn't having much success within his two year tenure, but it takes time to turn a team around...not to mention it was fun beating up on his Jayhawks while we could.

Best of luck to him; I think this will be a more rewarding venture for him.

It wasnt just that they were bad... it was that they were epically bad and showed no signs of life. 1-16 against conference, with that lone win coming against a colorado program that was its own disaster, will not help you at all. It wasnt just that they lost, it was that they lost tremendously. They had a good streak of games where teams were hanging 40, 50, 60, even 70 points on them.