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Very good point. With Steele, it was hard to milk the clock and give our D rest because there were so many quick 3 and outs. I think the play calling def changed when Jared got put in.Quote:
Originally Posted by CysMyBoy
Maybe ISU can only be and should only be a run first type of football team.....
I don't want to turn into Iowa though haha :eek:
It could be argued that the defense didn't look as good because the offense couldn't sustain drives and let the defense rest. When JB took over in the A&M game and we weren't going 3 and out every possession, the defense played a lot better than it had and I remember telling some of my buddies that we can actually play some pretty good D when they are rested and not on the field for 40 min a game.Quote:
Originally Posted by CyVik7
EDIT: Looks like CysMyBoy already made my point.
I still don't buy that. It's a convenient excuse, but it's way too easy.Quote:
Originally Posted by djcubby
We saw offense and defense trade 3 and outs for 3 consecutive series in an early game. Following that, the offense went on a long, sustained drive which gave the defense plenty of rest. The D responded by giving up a quick touchdown.
The D helped kill off the Texas game before the offense even saw the field.
Early on, the defense was just way too soft. They didn't need the offense's help to collapse, and often collapsed while the offense was doing its part.
I think it is Jared's job to lose. Steele and Sam's job to win.
We agree for once.Quote:
Originally Posted by isuno1fan
Defense wasn't good because thr offense kept turning the ball over in their own territory. Look at the Texas game. The defense made a couple of nice stops early in the game, but they were put in a horrible spot over and over again. Once the turnovers dropped off later in the season, the defense actually had a chance to shine. Watch the game, don't just go off stats.Quote:
Originally Posted by CyVik7Defense wasn't as good in the first 6 games as it was in the last 6.....don't forget about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by erikbj
Very true, imo. Not much more needs to be said, but it is fun to speculate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clones21
Steele doesn't run the read option nearly as well and JB. I think that all goes back to familiarity with the system. JB has been running a similar spread since he was a sophmore in HS.Quote:
Originally Posted by CyVik7
Steele is a very talented athlete but he may not have enough time to really learn the system and improve his decision making in the passing game.
He will be a very valuable backup QB if he does not win the starting job though.
I'm sure more consistency by our offense did help the defense. But after the Missouri debacle something shook up our defense and they turned it around to where we now have one of the better defenses in the Big 12. Don't know if there was an emotional players meeting or what, but it's worked.
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Originally Posted by cyhiphopp
Also, IMO, if Steele could run the offense with the efficiency and execution that JB showed at times, the offense could be incredible. Jantz is just that talented.
That said, JB will improve and after the bowl win :yes: his confidence will be very high. If JB can improve his deep passes and increase his accuracy in the short game, he should have success matriculating the ball down the field next year.
To me the question about Steele Jantz is, were the turnovers due in part to the injury? if the injury didn't play a part in it, he has a long ways to go with ball security. The game he was pulled the injury clearly was effecting him.
steele won the job last fall, don't count him out to win it again.
whats tough to decipher in practice is the the turnovers. Jantz probably is capable of making more big plays, but JB is smarter with the football.
Seems like JB makes fewer mistakes. Steele even in his Cal days was williing to throw deep down the field in a crowd. If Streele has fewer turnovers, he moves further ahead in the class. My guess is Sam will be number three next year unless stuff happens like this year.
Stats don't lie. Steele and JB were very close in turnovers....both INTs and Fumbles.Quote:
Originally Posted by dualthreat
Steele couldnt run the read option very well towards the end there because he was injured and, IMO, didnt want to keep the football ever or rarely in fear or injuring himself further.