I'm nervous that he hasn't coached QBs at a higher level. Our offense would be a lot better with more accurate passing and better decision making at the QB position. That takes coaching. I hope Mess can do it.
First off I am just fine with the hire. Its not the big splash that some people wanted but I have learned over the past 3 seasons with CPR that he makes the decision that he feels is the best possible for ISU, popular or not and goes with it. Was Messingham his first choice? Maybe, Maybe not. No one but CPR and probably JP will ever know that and quite frankly it doesnt matter. Whats done is done.
Mess has been around a long time with lots of experience coaching different position groups as well as OC and HC at a lower level.
It's good that we will be keeping the same system which will be great for the progression of the players. Obviously he will be aloud to make some changes and add his own wrinkles, but overall it'll be the same terminology.
TE's, WR's, and ST's all seen significant improvement under his watch. If the trend continues with the QB's and overall offense now, look out Big12!
Hope we can find a good WR coach now, but it's great to have an OC who's all in now.
You can't turn lead into gold.
We were 2-10 three years ago. You can't turnover an 85 player roster in three years. We face a top ten schedule on a yearly basis, yet some of our fans think it just a matter of the plays we run.
That's brilliant logic.:jimlad:
A lot of people are mentioning or suggesting that Tom Herman wasn't "All In". Aside from the fact that he took another job that paid better and was at a bigger program, is there something to suggest that Tom Herman wasn't "All In" while he was here. Am I missing some inside information or story that would suggest otherwise.
I'm honestly, just curious. I have no other agenda.
I sincerely doubt there are any stories about Herman not giving his all for ISU while he was here.
On a completely seperate topic, I think TH and CPR had more than a few personality clashes. TH always seemed a bit cocky and headstrong in interviews. In contrast Messingham seems to be one of CPRs favorites on the staff. We'll see if improved chemistry helps the team.
I don't question whether Herman was "all in" based on taking another job. Coaches do that.
I believe it's fair to say that he wasn't "all in" for the bowl game, because he himself has said that he didn't have as much time to prepare due to his responsibilities at Ohio State. If you're working for two schools at once, you're not "all in" at either one. I'm going to guess that he was a lot closer to "all in" at the new job than the one he was leaving.
I'm just not a huge fan of this hire. To me it just reeks of "nobody else was interested". Just disappointing with the increase in assistant money we have seen. Hope I'm wrong though.
Your point seems to be that it takes 5 years to get the right talent in a system for it to be successful, and then you gave Gary Pinkel as example. Pinkel's offense made significant strides and became in successful year 2, and thus MU does not appear to be a very good example to support your claim that it takes 5 years for a system to become successful.