Going with something that was predictably not a good match for ISU has hindered the program (and will going forward). That said, having a football coach that will teach football, and not a sports radio producer that will talk about the football he has read, will help.
I don't want to see drastic changes, but I sure hope Messingham can add some serious wrinkles to what Herman ran.
I still don't understand why we have to be a 100% shotgun offense? I've seen tons of college football teams that run maybe 80% shotgun and 20% under center with a lot of success.
With that being said, however, it won't matter one bit what offense we run if the QB position can't throw a 10 yd pass. If that doesn't change, we'll still be REALLY bad on offense. We're one dimensional... and Rutgers showed that you can't be one dimensional. If you're no threat to pass the ball, you're done for.
Yeah we might have been best off the previous few years keeping a similar style offense and playing to their strengths, but in the long run switching to a spread was the best thing we could do if we want to be serious players in the Big12.
Mess will do well with the QB's. Back to basics. BTW, I think the team will have open QB tryouts for all of you posters who think you can do what you say our our QB's can't or think its a simple thing to do.
1.) What exactly is it that makes the players we have recruited for Herman's offense not be able to excel in a different one? Increased ability to make plays in space? Mobile linemen that can pass block and get to the second level?
2.) Completely false. Ignoring it is never wise for a building program to willingly going backwards just to get back to where they were...How is going trying to do what other Big 12 teams do, but with not as good of talent give ISU an advantage in the Big 12?
Herman's offense magnifies our talent deficiencies. Any player will do better in an offense built on deception and schematically causing mismatches.
I think you're right that improved chemistry between the OC and HC could be a factor.
Back to the QBs, they will benefit greatly if Mess will shore up the scheme. As inaccurate as our QBs were, Herman's offense did them no favors.
A bit counterintuitive, but their accuracy should go up if we add some routes beyond 10 yards and not horizontal. Force the defense to defend more of the field.Quote:
Originally Posted by clonedude
Hermans offense did magnify the talent deficiencies, because like previously said, the players who had the talent and were made for his system were the ones who were redshirting or only freshmen or sophomores. I'm not sure how much you know about football and recruiting, but especially for a school like ISU you need to develop players. We aren't going to land many guys who can start as true freshman, and we weren't going to screw over the players they recruited for their system they want to run by making them learn a system that fit the current players better first.
You act like CPR took over a talented team with high expectations. No, he took over an awful team. He was brought in to make changes for the better and put us in the right direction. He gets a few transition years to make the needed changes. How about you wait to judge his offense until about year five or six when its fully his team with the players recruited for this system instead of a completely different one.
SwarthmoreCy, it's been a long day. Accuracy will increase with getting back to the basics....mechanics. TH was big on increasing arm strength to increase velocity. Velocity comes from mechanics (hips down) not arm strength. Have you seen our QB's. They are all ripped. Too much tight muscle, the need to be more loose. They can get stronger without being so tight.