Coach PR on being at ISU

**cysocool** · 05-10-2012, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by Cyclonin

Where I heard it too. Seems like they fabricated it a little. Rhoads has always been up front and honest unlike Cap'n Kirk over at EIU.

He has had a great 3 years and I hope he continues to build the program, but as with every program/sport, there will be opportunities to move on to different jobs that may be better for the coach and their family.

He is saying the right thing, and I hope he can retire here. Likelihood of that? Slim to none. How many times does a coach start there and finish there? Not often.

I think this statement is good for fans of any program to hear. It reminds us that his commitment to us must be matched by our commitment to him. He knows that there will be years when we struggle to win 4 or 5 games, and will we still have the same commitment to him?

If he can build up the program the next 4 or 5 year and if a better situation arises for CPR then we'll just have to find another good young coach. Its better to be prepared and have a contingency then have your head in the sand.

**ISpyCy** · 05-10-2012, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by cysocool

I came on CF to see the firestorm tim and tim said CPR statement set off. Where's the fire storm? Must be on hawki nation. I like how tt always leave ISU stories good or bad for the last ten minutes of the show.

Originally Posted by Cyclonin

Where I heard it too. Seems like they fabricated it a little. Rhoads has always been up front and honest unlike Cap'n Kirk over at EIU.

He has had a great 3 years and I hope he continues to build the program, but as with every program/sport, there will be opportunities to move on to different jobs that may be better for the coach and their family.

He is saying the right thing, and I hope he can retire here. Likelihood of that? Slim to none. How many times does a coach start there and finish there? Not often.

Pretty sure they got the wrong idea on this...

Rhoads comment - HawkeyeNation Forum

**longtimeclone** · 05-10-2012, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by cysocool

If he can build up the program the next 4 or 5 year and if a better situation arises for CPR then we'll just have to find another good young coach. Its better to be prepared and have a contingency then have your head in the sand.

Do you honestly think he would leave for a better situation? I think there are a lot of personal reasons for him to stay at ISU and I think the grass would have to be really green on the other side before he would leave.

**ISpyCy** · 05-10-2012, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by longtimeclone

Do you honestly think he would leave for a better situation? I think there are a lot of personal reasons for him to stay at ISU and I think the grass would have to be really green on the other side before he would leave.

If the (money) offer is right, he'll go, just like every other coach. Like I said, I don't see JP letting him go without a fight and CPR is loving his time here and probably, deep down, wants to stay at ISU, but all it takes is some green. Money's the answer; what's the question?

**Cycsk** · 05-10-2012, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by jay moe

A very honest answer.

Indeed, one of the things we love about Rhoads is his honesty. However, I wish that he would use a little more discretion in how he talks about this, particularly since there are so few coaches who are truly committed to their programs like him. When he sits with recruits and parents, he is much more believable than just about any other coach when he says that he intends to be there for the recruit's entire college career.

In private, I suspect that he dials up his commitment and intention to stay.

In public, I wish he would say something more like, "I absolutely love coaching for Iowa State. It is my dream job. And if they have me, I would to love to spend the rest of my career helping to build this program."

Let the pundits fill in the blanks about how few coaches stay in one place. And don't draw attention to the facts about how long he has stayed elsewhere. The other jobs were clearly stepping stones, but this is a destination job for him.

What other coach has the multifaceted and deep commitments that he has to coaching for an institution? Keeping this as the focus has got to help with recruitment and fundraising. I love the honesty in interviews, but would prefer that he keep being honest about player assessment, etc., but not be so explicit about the possibility that he might move on someday.

**bos** · 05-10-2012, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by ISpyCy

If the (money) offer is right, he'll go, just like every other coach. Like I said, I don't see JP letting him go without a fight and CPR is loving his time here and probably, deep down, wants to stay at ISU, but all it takes is some green. Money's the answer; what's the question?

If he brings success, it will bring money. If he gets both of those, he will stay a long time.

**cysocool** · 05-10-2012, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by longtimeclone

Do you honestly think he would leave for a better situation? I think there are a lot of personal reasons for him to stay at ISU and I think the grass would have to be really green on the other side before he would leave.

Possibly... I also agree with the reasons you stated and in 4 or 5 years there might not be too many jobs better than the one he's built at ISU.

**longtimeclone** · 05-10-2012, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by ISpyCy

If the (money) offer is right, he'll go, just like every other coach. Like I said, I don't see JP letting him go without a fight and CPR is loving his time here and probably, deep down, wants to stay at ISU, but all it takes is some green. Money's the answer; what's the question?

I think the money would have to be really good because I think there are a lot of reasons for him to stay like family.

Also if he would leave for a bigger job there would be a lot more pressure to win.

**CycoCyclone** · 05-10-2012, 09:06 AM

he is so honest and open, I love it.

**Cyclonin** · 05-10-2012, 09:08 AM

Obviously, no one truly knows but Rhoads and his family. If they feel they are the happiest in Ames, and the program is continuing up the ladder, I would imagine he will be here awhile. If things are heading downwards or plateauing, I don't think he'd be here that long.

One thing that I think is obvious with Rhoads is he is not happy being complacent. No matter what the job is, he wants better whether its for the current program or whoever. Just IMO.

JP has done everything right with Rhoads on the money/facility side and I am sure will continue to do so. To compete, you gotta have those assets.

**longtimeclone** · 05-10-2012, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by bos

If he brings success, it will bring money. If he gets both of those, he will stay a long time.

I would be willing to give him my user name if need be.

I agree that if he stays a while and really builds up the program he will be paid very well. I think a key to this having consistent coordinators from year to year.

**rebecacy** · 05-10-2012, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by Cycsk

Indeed, one of the things we love about Rhoads is his honesty. However, I wish that he would use a little more discretion in how he talks about this, particularly since there are so few coaches who are truly committed to their programs like him. When he sits with recruits and parents, he is much more believable than just about any other coach when he says that he intends to be there for the recruit's entire college career.

In private, I suspect that he dials up his commitment and intention to stay.

In public, I wish he would say something more like, "I absolutely love coaching for Iowa State. It is my dream job. And if they have me, I would to love to spend the rest of my career helping to build this program."

Let the pundits fill in the blanks about how few coaches stay in one place. And don't draw attention to the facts about how long he has stayed elsewhere. The other jobs were clearly stepping stones, but this is a destination job for him.

What other coach has the multifaceted and deep commitments that he has to coaching for an institution? Keeping this as the focus has got to help with recruitment and fundraising. I love the honesty in interviews, but would prefer that he keep being honest about player assessment, etc., but not be so explicit about the possibility that he might move on someday.

what he says makes no difference.

**bos** · 05-10-2012, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by longtimeclone

I would be willing to give him my user name if need be.

I agree that if he stays a while and really builds up the program he will be paid very well. I think a key to this having consistent coordinators from year to year.

I hate to say it, but look at the KF model. He stuck around, built the program, sustains success, gets paid very very well and has consistent staff.

**benjay** · 05-10-2012, 09:19 AM

CPR knows better than to paint himself into a corner by saying things like, "I want to retire here" or "This is my dream job". I mean, how much crap do we still give Chizik for his "firmly entrenched" comment?

What's important is that he does genuinely appear to love working here and building this program. I don't think his commitment can be questioned, and I'd be shocked if he's not here in 3-4 years. In 5? Who knows..

**Cycsk** · 05-10-2012, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by rebecacy

what he says makes no difference.

I think it may make a difference in the perception that recruits and their families have about his commitment to Iowa State. The difference may be minor, but it has the potential to have some significance.

I would like to see Rhoads be making an even stronger case for his commitment to Iowa State. He is one of the few D1 football coaches who can make a plausible case for why you should believe him when he says that he intends to stick around. I would like to see him exploit that more for the sake of distinguishing himself even more from other coaches in the recruitment process.

Let's use every advantage that we have.