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    Re: RECRUITING: Football adds a DT who can play next season

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones85' View Post
    When was the last time Iowa State had a starting LB at 250?
    Jesse Smith? Tim Dobbins maybe?

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    Re: RECRUITING: Football adds a DT who can play next season

    Sweet. Added depth at a position that can always use more.

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    Re: RECRUITING: Football adds a DT who can play next season

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIGuy4Cy View Post
    You think the strength and conditioning program at Wyoming is on par and has the funds of a Big 12 program? No homerism, but I would hope our programs are little better than that of a MW program.
    I never said it was on par. It's close enough to ISU's program that a guy isn't going to magically put on 20 lbs just by training for 3 months in Ames.

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    Re: RECRUITING: Football adds a DT who can play next season

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones85' View Post
    When was the last time Iowa State had a starting LB at 250?

    Matt Tau'fo'ou came in weighing over 250 from Juco before he slimmed down to 239 his senior year.

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    Re: RECRUITING: Football adds a DT who can play next season

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Architect View Post
    Jesse Smith? Tim Dobbins maybe?
    Jesse was 230 to 235. Dobbins was close at 245. I guess my point is the last decade we really haven't had a 250 LB

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    Re: RECRUITING: Football adds a DT who can play next season

    Quote Originally Posted by Cystheman View Post
    Matt Tau'fo'ou came in weighing over 250 from Juco before he slimmed down to 239 his senior year.
    Matt T is 5'9. If that dude ever weighed 250 it was b/c he came in out of shape.

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    Re: RECRUITING: Football adds a DT who can play next season

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    I never said it was on par. It's close enough to ISU's program that a guy isn't going to magically put on 20 lbs just by training for 3 months in Ames.
    Well I guess we will see, but I can promise you he will put on more weight and will be on a different strength and conditioning program than that of Wyoming. At 6'3" he may not have a huge frame, but anyone can gain weight it just depends on how the coaches want the weight to be gained.

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    Re: RECRUITING: Football adds a DT who can play next season

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones85' View Post
    Matt T is 5'9. If that dude ever weighed 250 it was b/c he came in out of shape.
    Most of our linebackers have been just short of 250, and between 240 and 250.

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    Re: RECRUITING: Football adds a DT who can play next season

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIGuy4Cy View Post
    Most of our linebackers have been just short of 250, and between 240 and 250.
    Not true. Only had 3 LB's in the past 10 years that have weighed in between there and zero that weighed above 250. Knott and Klein were under 240 until this past year as well. All stats are of them in their last year at Iowa State.

    Knott 243
    Klein 243
    Tauffo 235
    Morgan 210
    Broomfield 200
    George 215
    Morton 207
    Garrin 227
    Raven 230
    Smith 234
    Bibbs 234
    Banks 227
    Bowen 215
    McKenzie 230
    Dobbins 245
    Brown 230
    Robertson 230
    Whitaker 230
    Word 235

    Avg weight is 227 and that is only including the guys that mainly played. You take the backups and the weight would be under 220.

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    Re: RECRUITING: Football adds a DT who can play next season

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIGuy4Cy View Post
    Well I guess we will see, but I can promise you he will put on more weight and will be on a different strength and conditioning program than that of Wyoming. At 6'3" he may not have a huge frame, but anyone can gain weight it just depends on how the coaches want the weight to be gained.
    How about you just admit that your post that you thought he was going to put on 20-30 lbs in 3.5 months was wrong?

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    Re: RECRUITING: Football adds a DT who can play next season

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIGuy4Cy View Post
    Most of our linebackers have been just short of 250, and between 240 and 250.
    No way.

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    Re: RECRUITING: Football adds a DT who can play next season

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones85' View Post
    Not true. Only had 3 LB's in the past 10 years that have weighed in between there and zero that weighed above 250. Knott and Klein were under 240 until this past year as well. All stats are of them in their last year at Iowa State.

    Knott 243
    Klein 243
    Tauffo 235
    Morgan 210
    Broomfield 200
    George 215
    Morton 207
    Garrin 227
    Raven 230
    Smith 234
    Bibbs 234
    Banks 227
    Bowen 215
    McKenzie 230
    Dobbins 245
    Brown 230
    Robertson 230
    Whitaker 230
    Word 235

    Avg weight is 227 and that is only including the guys that mainly played. You take the backups and the weight would be under 220.
    UniGuy4Cy pwnd once again.

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    Re: RECRUITING: Football adds a DT who can play next season

    That kid isn't gaining 20 pounds of good weight. You make that kind of physical jump from your SR in HS to your Sophmore year in college. You max out. Doesnt have anything to do with strength programs its biology, he's grown
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    Re: RECRUITING: Football adds a DT who can play next season

    I have a hard time believing Knott weights 243
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    Re: RECRUITING: Football adds a DT who can play next season

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones85' View Post
    Not true. Only had 3 LB's in the past 10 years that have weighed in between there and zero that weighed above 250. Knott and Klein were under 240 until this past year as well. All stats are of them in their last year at Iowa State.

    Knott 243
    Klein 243
    Tauffo 235
    Morgan 210
    Broomfield 200
    George 215
    Morton 207
    Garrin 227
    Raven 230
    Smith 234
    Bibbs 234
    Banks 227
    Bowen 215
    McKenzie 230
    Dobbins 245
    Brown 230
    Robertson 230
    Whitaker 230
    Word 235

    Avg weight is 227 and that is only including the guys that mainly played. You take the backups and the weight would be under 220.
    And the best lbs on that list minus Ace are weighing more than 240 and playing on Sundays.

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