Next OL Commit?

[gocubs2118]

You're making an artificial distinction between BCS Automatic Qualifying Conferences, and BCS schools. Every FBS school is a BCS school. Just ask Boise State--and TCU or Utah, based on past experiences.

You couldn't be more wrong.

Printable List of BCS Conference Schools - ePrintableCalendars.com

[theshadow]

You couldn't be more wrong.

Printable List of BCS Conference Schools - ePrintableCalendars.com

He couldn't be more right.

Directly from the BCS Media Guide:

"The BCS is not an entity. Instead, it is an event managed by the 11
NCAA Football Bowl Subdivision conferences, all of them “BCS
Conferences,” and the University of Notre Dame through a series
of contracts among bowls and television networks. The conferences
are the Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Conference USA,
Mid-American, Mountain West, Sun Belt, Pacific-12, Southeastern,
and Western Athletic."

[jaretac]

You're making an artificial distinction between BCS Automatic Qualifying Conferences, and BCS schools. Every FBS school is a BCS school. Just ask Boise State--and TCU or Utah, based on past experiences.

Youre grasping at straws and it is making you look like a fool. I'm sure you misread it as FBS, just admit it.

San Jose St is not a BCS school, FBS yes, but not BCS. We all know they can make it to a BCS bowl game, but they are not from what is traditionally defined a BCS conference (the charter conferences for the BCS). This is the common use of the title.

[CarolinaCy]

You're making an artificial distinction between BCS Automatic Qualifying Conferences, and BCS schools. Every FBS school is a BCS school. Just ask Boise State--and TCU or Utah, based on past experiences.

That is the first time I've ever heard anyone try to make that argument. Might be technically correct, but that's just not how the vast majority of CFB fans use the terms BCS, FBS, and FCS.

IMO there are BCS schools, the rest of DIV I-A, and then I-AA. I still refuse to recognize the official use of FBS and FCS.

[Rhoadhoused]

Youre grasping at straws and it is making you look like a fool. I'm sure you misread it as FBS, just admit it.

San Jose St is not a BCS school, FBS yes, but not BCS. We all know they can make it to a BCS bowl game, but they are not from what is traditionally defined a BCS conference (the charter conferences for the BCS). This is the common use of the title.

Yep. The definition comes from if winning their conference gives them an automatic BCS Bowl bid, not whether it is possible to get to a BCS Bowl.

[Aclone]

He couldn't be more right.

Directly from the BCS Media Guide:

"The BCS is not an entity. Instead, it is an event managed by the 11
NCAA Football Bowl Subdivision conferences, all of them “BCS
Conferences,” and the University of Notre Dame through a series
of contracts among bowls and television networks. The conferences
are the Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Conference USA,
Mid-American, Mountain West, Sun Belt, Pacific-12, Southeastern,
and Western Athletic."

Heaven forbid someone use facts.

Youre grasping at straws and it is making you look like a fool. I'm sure you misread it as FBS, just admit it.

San Jose St is not a BCS school, FBS yes, but not BCS. We all know they can make it to a BCS bowl game, but they are not from what is traditionally defined a BCS conference (the charter conferences for the BCS). This is the common use of the title.

I wouldn't say that someone looks a fool, simply because they are mistaken. "Common usage" does not make a term correct. That is what is (ahem) commonly referred to as "ignorance".

[swarthmoreCY]

He couldn't be more right.

Directly from the BCS Media Guide:

"The BCS is not an entity. Instead, it is an event managed by the 11
NCAA Football Bowl Subdivision conferences, all of them “BCS
Conferences,”

Hardly.

Yep, the BCS is not an entity, it is an event. So when used in reference to an entity, meaning or value is due to convention...Conventionally, a BCS program is one that is a member of a conference whose champion is an automatic qualifier for a BCS event.

[theshadow]

Hardly.

Yep, the BCS is not an entity, it is an event. So when used in reference to an entity, meaning or value is due to convention...Conventionally, a BCS program is one that is a member of a conference whose champion is an automatic qualifier for a BCS event.

So the definition set forth BY THE BCS ITSELF is wrong, just because people have misinterpreted and misused it?

[AllIowaTeams]

How many recruits is ISU up to now? Seems like they've been on a pretty good roll the past few weeks landing commitments.

[istater7]

We even use BCS to describe the power basketball conference schools..c'mon man!

[Rhoadhoused]

How many recruits is ISU up to now? Seems like they've been on a pretty good roll the past few weeks landing commitments.

I believe it is 13.

[swarthmoreCY]

So the definition set forth BY THE BCS ITSELF is wrong, just because people have misinterpreted and misused it?

Absolutely not, but your rebuttal by means of the definition in the BCS guidebook, results in both contentions being wrong- not that AC was right.

It is the definition set forth by the BCS itself as to why the one must refer to convention for the meaning of BCS in this context. Like you provided, the BCS is an event, not an entity. Both sides of the contention were employing BCS to describe an entity, which is a a big clue convention is at play. Conventionally, BCS is shorthand for BCS (event) automatic qualifier. Perhaps CF can have a ban on the usage of slang and terms with widely understood conventional meanings- so that a few posters blind to the context do not misinterpret the meaning.

[theshadow]

Conventionally, BCS is shorthand for BCS (event) automatic qualifier. Perhaps CF can have a ban on the usage of slang and terms with widely understood conventional meanings- so that a few posters blind to the context do not misinterpret the meaning.

Conventional use doesn't make it correct.

There are 11 BCS conferences.
There are 6 BCS AQ conferences.

Those two groups are not the same. It's all spelled out very clearly, and is really not that hard of a concept to grasp. Unfortunately, people are just lazy and/or stupid -- like the folks who have bastardized the term "BCS" for use as a descriptor in basketball.

Maybe CF should have a ban on stupid, too.

[rainbowdolphin]

I saw this guy mentioned on the front page of Rivals--not to hard to figure out who it was. The last Californian we had visit on an unofficial (that I know of) was Trevor Hodge. Any chance this kid commits soon? Looks like just the type that coaches Bliel and McKnight like to mold into a top lineman.

Vincent Johnson - Yahoo! Sports

According to Rivals he committed today-same size 6'5" 250 so I am pleased.
Welcome to Cyclone Nation, Vinnie. (according to them he goes by Vinnie.)

[00clone]

Youre grasping at straws and it is making you look like a fool. I'm sure you misread it as FBS, just admit it.

San Jose St is not a BCS school, FBS yes, but not BCS. We all know they can make it to a BCS bowl game, but they are not from what is traditionally defined a BCS conference (the charter conferences for the BCS). This is the common use of the title.

Actually, all of you losers arguing over some terminology as if it has worldly significance look like fools. Shut it. Thread is about a recruit.

If you want to argue about FBS/FCS/BCS...start a thread. You can even put in a poll, and link to external sources and stuff.