Updated weight over analysis thread.

**Aclone** · 08-21-2012, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by Rhoadhoused

Just looking through the roster and here are a few things that stood out to me:

*Steele Jantz is 6'3" 225. Compare that to Collin Klein who is 6'5" 226 according to a quick google search. ( And I guess a comparison to Barnett could be useful. He is 6'1" 198.

*Maggit is smaller than I remember at 6'3" 244, about the same size as Willie Scott who I considered undersized at 6'2" 242

* Our underclassmen have some really, really nice size. Especially our LBers, Dline, and Oline. Really encouraging considering McKnight seems to be very good at putting on good football weight as opposed to just adding weight for the sake of it.

But Scott was 6'2" 231--so I'll take it as a positive that he's finally put on some weight.

Originally Posted by CYVADER

I know im going to get blasted, but why not redahirt him this year if he is still struggling?

Who said that he was struggling?

**Rhoadhoused** · 08-21-2012, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by Aclone

Who said that he was struggling?

I believe that was Paul Rhoads.

**Aclone** · 08-21-2012, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by Rhoadhoused

I believe that was Paul Rhoads.

Link?

I've seen Rhoads saying he hasn't arrived yet, saying that he's "struggling" is different from anything I've heard.

**Frak** · 08-21-2012, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by Aclone

But Scott was 6'2" 231--so I'll take it as a positive that he's finally put on some weight.

Yeah, I was actually pretty happy with Scott getting up to 242, but a little disappointed with Maggitt at 244. A couple of numbers that caught my eye: Jake Knott at 252 and David Irving at 280. Those are NFL sizes for their positions...something that ISU has RARELY had anywhere except the OL. Also really happy with the size of some of the TRFR. CPR is bringing in some players.

**Rhoadhoused** · 08-21-2012, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by Aclone

Link?

I've seen Rhoads saying he hasn't arrived yet, saying that he's "struggling" is different from anything I've heard.

I don't really want to dig through cyclones.tv, but it was a free video. I think he said something along the lines of "he is progressing slower than we would like him to". That is about the most negative statement Rhoads has made about a player all camp. Coach Bray was asked about him in a later interview I believe.

Don't get me wrong, I am driving the David Irving bandwagon, but at this moment it looks like he could have used a redshirt year last year.

**Doc** · 08-21-2012, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by Rhoadhoused

I don't really want to dig through cyclones.tv, but it was a free video. I think he said something along the lines of "he is progressing slower than we would like him to". That is about the most negative statement Rhoads has made about a player all camp. Coach Bray was asked about him in a later interview I believe.

Don't get me wrong, I am driving the David Irving bandwagon, but at this moment it looks like he could have used a redshirt year last year.

We do have more depth across the board now. But, it wouldn't surprise me if, in hindsight, the coaches think a RS year may have been nice for Brackens and Miller as well, and that, along with the progression of Brun and Bundrage in their RS years is a big reason we aren't seeing true freshman play this year. *ducks head*

**Rhoadhoused** · 08-21-2012, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by Doc

We do have more depth across the board now. But, it wouldn't surprise me if, in hindsight, the coaches think a RS year may have been nice for Brackens and Miller as well, and that, along with the progression of Brun and Bundrage in their RS years is a big reason we aren't seeing true freshman play this year. *ducks head*

I agree wholeheartedly.