Who the **** is this guy and this CBS Sportsline Poll?

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Originally Posted by tejasclone

And then ESPN spends so much time pumping sunshine about the B1G to try to make the product for which they're contracted to televise more appealing.

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this +e11eventy!!1!

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Originally Posted by BKLYNCyclone

It's formula based. It isn't going to be even close to accurate until there is a lot more data involved. SOS plays some part I'm sure, and is probably skewing the results quite a bit early as there is nothing else out there...

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If that's true, what the hell kind of formula wouldn't put a team ahead of the team it beat after week 1? Shouldn't the median be the teams with week 1 byes until after week 2 when there would be more data to establish SOS?

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Originally Posted by 00clone

Should I start knowing who Jerry Palm is?

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It helps for the hating. Otherwise, you're hating someone you don't know about. Learn, then hate.

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Originally Posted by MNCyGuy

If that's true, what the hell kind of formula wouldn't put a team ahead of the team it beat after week 1? Shouldn't the median be the teams with week 1 byes until after week 2 when there would be more data to establish SOS?

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Most of the time problems like this are because the formula starts off the season including data from the previous year so they can put something out right away. Unfortunately what they are really doing is corrupting the results with meaningless data.

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Originally Posted by CycloneErik

It helps for the hating. Otherwise, you're hating someone you don't know about. Learn, then hate.

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This seems like it would require an overabundance of effort. Anyone mind if I stick with "Meh"?

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Originally Posted by 00clone

This seems like it would require an overabundance of effort. Anyone mind if I stick with "Meh"?

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We don't go halfway here, but this shouldn't take much effort. Read one of his columns with these predictions, decide you hate it, and you're good to go.

Hating isn't rocket science.

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Originally Posted by CycloneErik

Hating isn't rocket science.

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Well, that goes without saying. Hawk fans: World class haters, Zimbabwe level rocket scientists.

I think you'll note that the Sportsline...ooops...CBSSports.com 124 changes from week to week based on wins and losses. So the more we win with our impressive SOS rating, the better we do. But I think that each school's SOS changes based on how well each team on that schedule is doing with their schedule. A win VS Iowa should at least place us ahead of Iowa, but it will take a win over a top 25 ranked team to make us climb that list. I've found that by the middle of the season, the Sportsline 124 has quite few rankings that I disagree with.

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Originally Posted by CycloneErik

It helps for the hating. Otherwise, you're hating someone you don't know about. Learn, then hate.

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blind hate is more fun.

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Originally Posted by VeloClone

Most of the time problems like this are because the formula starts off the season including data from the previous year so they can put something out right away. Unfortunately what they are really doing is corrupting the results with meaningless data.

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Yea, that has to be what's happening otherwise you'd have all the teams that won last week listed in semi-random order, then all the bye teams listed, and then all the teams that lost listed, because there'd be no real way to weigh "good" or "bad" wins/losses yet. Like Johnny 5, "Need more input!"

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Originally Posted by cc1091

I think you'll note that the Sportsline...ooops...CBSSports.com 124 changes from week to week based on wins and losses. So the more we win with our impressive SOS rating, the better we do. But I think that each school's SOS changes based on how well each team on that schedule is doing with their schedule. A win VS Iowa should at least place us ahead of Iowa, but it will take a win over a top 25 ranked team to make us climb that list. I've found that by the middle of the season, the Sportsline 124 has quite few rankings that I disagree with.

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It should if your theory is correct; but did you notice that NIU is ahead of Iowa and Tulsa is ahead of ISU?

As a lifelong Cyclone fan I've learned not to worry about pre-season/very early predictions and rankings. Sometimes they are good and falsely get my hopes up but most times ISU gets no respect. Its kinda nice when the Rodney Dangerfield of the Big XII proves the "experts" wrong

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Originally Posted by gocubs2118

Do we hate Jerry Palm again?

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I thought Jerry Palm was a euphemism like "Rusty Trombone" or "Dirty Sanchez"...