First fumble

**Let's Go State** · 09-09-2012, 10:51 PM

In watching the replay on tv. It was very obvious that both of shontrelle's knees were down. Why was that not reviewed? Aren't all plays reviewed?

**ISUCubswin** · 09-09-2012, 10:52 PM

I don't think so. Close, but I don't think he was down.

**KFitzy87** · 09-09-2012, 10:52 PM

We're Iowa State though

**3TrueFans** · 09-09-2012, 10:53 PM

When they showed the replays on TV it looked like a fumble to me.

**BBHMagic** · 09-09-2012, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by ISUCubswin

I don't think so. Close, but I don't think he was down.

I went back on my dvr after the game and found a perfect shot that showed both knees were down well before he lost the ball.

**andybernard** · 09-09-2012, 10:55 PM

I was curious, too. I couldn't tell but obviously if its that close it needs to be reviewed. I was watching it with some hawk fans and one of them was pretty certain he could tell a knee was down. The others were all just yelling at the TV, "HURRY UP AND SNAP IT"

**AltHawk** · 09-09-2012, 10:56 PM

I'm sure you had an angle that the review officials didn't get to see.

**00clone** · 09-09-2012, 10:58 PM

^^^^apparently HN forums are still down.

**Let's Go State** · 09-09-2012, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by BBHMagic

I went back on my dvr after the game and found a perfect shot that showed both knees were down well before he lost the ball.

It was a tossup to me at first, but then after the third angle you could clearly see that both knees were down. If it didn't turn out like it did, id be pretty sick right now.

**klamath632** · 09-09-2012, 11:02 PM

I wondered about it when it happened, but I didn't rewind the play to check it out. I was surprised it wasn't reviewed, but wasn't too upset about it at the time. My wife and daughter have been on me this year to scream at the television less.

**Let's Go State** · 09-09-2012, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by 00clone

^^^^apparently HN forums are still down.

I know, if I cared enough I'd take pictures of the frames.... But I don't feel like burning my time on them.

**BigBake** · 09-09-2012, 11:11 PM

Me to....greatly surprised that play wasn't reviewed.

**cyhiphopp** · 09-09-2012, 11:19 PM

Originally Posted by Let's Go State

I know, if I cared enough I'd take pictures of the frames.... But I don't feel like burning my time on them.

DO IT WALDEN! You owe the ISU fanbase at least this much.

**goclones69** · 09-09-2012, 11:42 PM

were iowa state, we don't get the calls that other teams get. Just get used to it buddy

**Steve** · 09-09-2012, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by BBHMagic

I went back on my dvr after the game and found a perfect shot that showed both knees were down well before he lost the ball.

One problem is that frame shots can't confirm everything. They can be used to verify fixed issues such a knee down or a foot out of bounds. When it comes to a fumble, there can still be contact with the ball after you begin to lose control which is the key deciding factor. A live view of a fumble can sometimes be the most accurate.