Hey Cyclone fans, Raider here (sorry for the long post)

**carvers4math** · 09-17-2012, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by CycloneErik

If it would help the team, I can provide something unique for college football, because I'm a man. I'm 40.

Even Brandon Weedon couldn't say that.

One of the NFL talking heads yesterday referred to Weedon as a young quarterback. Pretty sure he's older than Rodgers.

**MrPeske** · 09-17-2012, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by Cydkar

Why wouldn't you help us out and name the DC? He got fired so what's the difference.

How about this guy?
Chad Glasgow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

**jbindm** · 09-17-2012, 10:35 AM

It's going to be a long two weeks. Win or lose, I'm just not sure how much the TT game is going to tell us about what CPR has this year. TT has beat up on a bunch of nobodies, so it's really tough to say whether they're that much better than last year's squad or if they're just an ok team taking full advantage of a weak early schedule.
I think ISU has enough talent and depth plus a big homefield advantage to run their record to 4-0, but it's certainly no gimmie.

**BringBackJohnny** · 09-17-2012, 11:01 AM

Crazy Thread ----

I think TT has feasted on too many cupcakes. The long plane ride north and all that frosting will have them throwing up on themselves the first big hit they take from Jake or A.J. After that TT will be so emberased they won't want to play any more and the Clones cruise to 4-0.

I want to respect TT more but it sounds like they have alot of internal problems and some poor dietary habits.

ISU 34 TT 23

**TTUFan** · 09-17-2012, 11:09 AM

Interesting thread.

**CtownCyclone** · 09-17-2012, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by KFitzy87

If you're in need of a 6'1 170 lb guy at running back with a big arm, average speed and acceleration, then I'm your man

Really enjoying the single life, eh?

**UNIGuy4Cy** · 09-17-2012, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by BringBackJohnny

Crazy Thread ----

I think TT has feasted on too many cupcakes. The long plane ride north and all that frosting will have them throwing up on themselves the first big hit they take from Jake or A.J. After that TT will be so emberased they won't want to play any more and the Clones cruise to 4-0.

I want to respect TT more but it sounds like they have alot of internal problems and some poor dietary habits.

ISU 34 TT 23

They have not even left the state of Texas this season, with the plane ride to Des Moines and the game at 6 now they will have a long time to think about the *** whooping they are about to get.

**ISUAgronomist** · 09-17-2012, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by KFitzy87

with a big arm

Originally Posted by CtownCyclone

Really enjoying the single life, eh?

**HFCS** · 09-17-2012, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by ttraiderbacker

I just don't think anybody should be able to treat the administration like he did, and be able to survive. I couldn't go into my job, and tell my boss to "F__ Off", and be able to come back to work. Sometimes we treat these coaches more than what they should be. We treat them as icons. If they are good people, treat the kids great, kids graduate, and become good citizens, BUT they don't win...then they get fired. If the coach is a *******, and treats people like slaves, and like he owns the school, but wins, then he keeps his job, and gets raises, and is treated like a God at said school.

Leach didn't recruit, and in fact cancelled recruiting trips to go do what HE wanted to do. Leach didn't fundraise for the school to help SUPPLEMENT his own income, and to bring about better changes. We are just now trying to get a nice videoboard for the stadium, and an indoor practice facility. He never tried to take advantage of the success people thought he was having, although 3-4 of his wins every season were against these same creampuffs that we are still playing. Leach didn't try to build a defense, and didn't even know some of the defensive players names. Leach was CONSTANTLY looked for another job, and it cost us in recruiting. Leach's lack of recruiting really cost us last year on defense. We had 3 walk-ons playing in the secondary, and also had a converted WR STARTING at CB for us. It's starting to cost us on the OL this year, too. If we have an injury, or two on the OL, we are screwed...just like at DB last season. Who knows, we might have to have punter playing OT (jk, of course).

Tuberville is actually trying to build a PROGRAM, and that only comes through recruiting. He's also trying to run the ball more, which I appreciate. He's not going to go for it on our 25 yard line like Leach. I'll take Tuberville, and his recruiting abilities over Leach's offense any day. Also, his fundraising. Tuberville is trying to recruit speed, something Leach didn't care about.

Leach will get a nice QB, or WR every once in a while at WSU, but he won't have the same success he had at Tech. He won't recruit, and just doesn't have the recruiting base he had in Texas.

Leach didn't care about Tech, and doesn't care about WSU. He only cares about his offense, and himself.

A decade later ISU fans have the same differing opinions about former NCOTY Larry Eustachy. You'd still get 180 degree opinions on the man from one fan to the next.

Of course the debate is just a novelty now that Hoiberg seems to have absolutely no limits to his upside so far :-) ...but the debate will still come up and still have drastically different opinions.

**TTUFan** · 09-17-2012, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by UNIGuy4Cy

They have not even left the state of Texas this season, with the plane ride to Des Moines and the game at 6 now they will have a long time to think about the *** whooping they are about to get.

If it was ISU coming to play at TTU and I made the argument... ISU have not even left the state of Iowa this season. Would you think... well you make a good point there or doesn't really matter what does is the home field advantage/night game.

**Rhoadhoused** · 09-17-2012, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by TTUFan

If it was ISU coming to play at TTU and I made the argument... ISU have not even left the state of Iowa this season. Would you think... well you make a good point there or doesn't really matter what does is the home field advantage/night game.

I agree road games in a hostile environment are what is important, not how far away or what state they are in.

That being said ISU has won in a very hostile environment @Kinnick in front of 65,000 Iowa fans.

**State43** · 09-17-2012, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by ttraiderbacker

There definitely was.

Here's a nice little video of Leach after a win against BU just in case you haven't seen it. He gets a little mad.

You didn't build that!
Sorry, couldn't resist.

**NickTheGreat** · 09-17-2012, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Rhoadhoused

I agree road games in a hostile environment are what is important, not how far away or what state they are in.

That being said ISU has won in a very hostile environment @Kinnick in front of 65,000 Iowa fans.

And really, Iowa City isn't part of Iowa. More extreme Western Illinois