***Official Bench Steele Jantz thread***

[TwisterHead]

Yes there are many things that went wrong on offense. BUT, There is one thing and one thing only that should be pointed out for blame... IF YOU ARE A D1, repeat D1... QB, you better for the love of god NOT drop a football! Hooooooooly $:/t batman! Are you kidding me!? You can't do that!?!? I don't care if your joe $-&#^*# Montana. Go play for drake! I'd rather have a right handed qb with no right arm, if he can hold onto it with his left I consider him better then Steele Jantz. Winning people, that's the goal! That's why coaches get paid millions a year, not to defend their players and say, don't blame Steele. Do your job and yank him! Never should have stepped back on the field after that kind of mistake, ever! And don't tell me "but he makes some great plays" because when you DROP the football...that erases every hailmary flea flicking diving touchdown catch spectacular play that you have ever made!!! Us fans pay good money for seasons tickets to win or at least do things to give us a damn chance. Oh and the play calling you say???.... No play calling in the history of football will work when your QUARTERBACK drops the football!!! Drop? Really? Realllllly?! Mind blowing!


Sincerely,
One p*$$*d off fan that thinks Steele Jantz should never play another game at ISU.

[swarthmoreCY]

I'm sorry, but if you have more INT's than TD's and have less than 60% completion percentage, you aren't a really good QB.

And with that I'm off to bed, way too drunk from this loss.

They lose, I booze!

You do not drag ISU to a bowl game with that type of surrounding talent, get drafted, or spend that long in the NFL if you are not really good. It is more plausible they could have been great if in a better environment.

[CYEATHAWK]

After reading 10 pages of this juvenile, black and gold, toothless, Hamms beer swilling BS....I had to click back to the home page to make sure I wasn't forwarded to HN. Wow. Maybe we should start an official "....... needs to be benched" thread after every loss, so CPR can jump on line right after a game, click to CF to find out exactly who and what it will take to run the table and win it all.

[Ry4Cy]

After reading 10 pages of this juvenile, black and gold, toothless, Hamms beer swilling BS....I had to click back to the home page to make sure I wasn't forwarded to HN. Wow. Maybe we should start an official "....... needs to be benched" thread after every loss, so CPR can jump on line right after a game, click to CF to find out exactly who and what it will take to run the table and win it all.

Welcome to every message board.

[KnappShack]

After reading 10 pages of this juvenile, black and gold, toothless, Hamms beer swilling BS....I had to click back to the home page to make sure I wasn't forwarded to HN. Wow. Maybe we should start an official "....... needs to be benched" thread after every loss, so CPR can jump on line right after a game, click to CF to find out exactly who and what it will take to run the table and win it all.

Can we at least stop saying he's got a little Farve in his game? More Rex Grossman or Dave Kreig.

[CyDude16]

Any poster that wants Jantz benched doesn't understand football or understand that he is our best option at the moment.

[KnappShack]

Any poster that wants Jantz benched doesn't understand football or understand that he is our best option at the moment.

EXACTLY!!!! Unless you have a backup that has a proven ability to win a big game like the OSU game last year.....oh wait. Who was the QB that game? Huh. To say anyone who wants a change doesn't know ball is a stretch. Jantz has made it fair game for debate

[Psyclone Brian]

Well, while we're on the subject... What about our kicking game?
How do you miss an extra-point at point blank range? (Not sure Mason Crosby could even answer this one)

[MartyFine]

Jantz was bad, but...

The OL was horrible tonight.
The play calling has been horrible all season.
The offensive scheme has been horrible not just all season, and not just under CPR's tenure, but for as long as I can remember.

Jantz was bad tonight, but I don't think another QB does any better.

Disagree. Herman was good at keeping players out of situations that they couldn't handle, which is an important part of scheming. We're about to see how good Herman was at this if we insist on playing the turnover machine.

[ISUAgronomist]

if we insist on playing the turnover machine.

Which one?

[simply1]

Well, while we're on the subject... What about our kicking game?
How do you miss an extra-point at point blank range? (Not sure Mason Crosby could even answer this one)

Got me, but it happens a lot. Wisconsin missed one, boise state seems to miss them a lot and won't try any field goals it appears, etc, etc. We're not the only team with a missed PAT this year.

[CyDude16]

EXACTLY!!!! Unless you have a backup that has a proven ability to win a big game like the OSU game last year.....oh wait. Who was the QB that game? Huh. To say anyone who wants a change doesn't know ball is a stretch. Jantz has made it fair game for debate

We're 3-1 for pete's sake. If we were opposite, I'd agree with you.

You think it's a coincidence that Richardson has been taking reps with the twos as well.... Barnett is not the answer by any means. Remember he has his own turnover issues, that Jantz has...
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Use a little logic, instead of emotion right now.

Oh and don't forget our terrible play calling, and horrid blocking by the O-Line... I suppose that is Jantz fault too? Good Grief.

For how much our fan base loves to chastise the Hawks for flipping out with emotion, you guys are acting just like them. And the fans like you make this place the hub of irrational idiots within our fan base.

[isuno1fan]

This is ridiculous. Jantz's 3 picks... A miscommunication, a pass that was on the money that got hit out, and a throw up ball. It's hard to get yards passing in the first half when you throw like 7 passes. Did he play well? No. But he is not the reason we lost, there are many more issues.

The "throw up" ball was a terrible pass. We had a guy wide open in the corner of the end zone. If he would have thrown it to the corner, it would have been an easy TD. For some unknown reason he threw it to the middle of the end zone right to their defender. That was a bad, BAD pass.

[killtrapper]

Any poster that wants Jantz benched doesn't understand football or understand that he is our best option at the moment.

Is it our best option? How much worse could the other guys do?

[rochclone]

You really don't remember how last year ended, do you? By the end of the year defenses began figuring out the guy that won 3 Big 12 games was a one trick pony and he was terrible the rest of the year.

While it appears Jantz isn't the answer, Barnett clearly isn't either.

Barnett beat Kansas, Oklahoma State and lead an offense that scored 41 points on a ranked Texas Tech in Lubbock last year. By my count that is 35 more points than our offense scored last night.