***Official Bench Steele Jantz thread***

[Wesley]

McFarland as OC with Burnham as DC and we would have consistent 7-8 win seasons...pretty sad that one of the best DCs that has been at Iowa State is with one of the worst offensive eras in ISU history.

Where is McFarland these days?

[IcSyU]

The intercepted pass to Brun was thrown into the crowd. Only a great play by Brun to get his hands on it almost resulted in a catch.Some people would not have thrown that ball to that target.

Into a crowd? It was 1 man. The free safety arrived late and the corner was coming from the outside receiver. If you call that a "crowd" we better never throw the ball because there are almost always 3 guys within 10 yards of the ball.

[ISUAgronomist]

Into a crowd? It was 1 man.

Exactly.

Here Wesley:

[Cyclone1985]

I dont really care who is out there, but we cannot continue to shoot ourselves in the foot.

All this team needs is a "Kyle Orton" type QB - makes the right reads, throws the easy routes, no risk taking throwing into tight windows.
Instead, we have a "Jay Cutler" type QB (minus the pouting) - making too many bad decisions and putting too much pressure on the defense.

[CRAZYGREG]

There was a defender directly in front of the reciever and SJ led Brun DIRECTLY into the saftey coming over. Nothing like getting your receivers smashed by defenders by putting them in horrible situations. That one is ALL on Steele.

[Cyclone1985]

You know whats wrong with that play..... we have a 3rd and 7, QB can't hit the broad side of a barn and Mess calls for 4 deep routes!? WTF

[IcSyU]

There was a defender directly in front of the reciever and SJ led Brun DIRECTLY into the saftey coming over. Nothing like getting your receivers smashed by defenders by putting them in horrible situations. That one is ALL on Steele.

No he didn't. The safety was coming onto Brun at an angle. Brun had enough time to catch the ball AND turn around. The helmet ended up on the ball. Not a lot you can do there.

I assume you don't think we should throw slants since the receiver generally hits hit immediately after catching it? Or routes downfield unless the safety is beat because otherwise the receiver is going to get hit. This is football not a dance recital.

[scyclonekid]

When Jantz was named the starter I was nervous and well so far it has come true. Barnett is a smarter QB, but his arm is not very good. Rip me if you want I want Richardson to be given a chance I honestly think he has the best most accurate arm on this team. Put him in there do some short passes to build confidence and go from there, we do not need sexy we need an accurate arm with better decision making skills and owning TOP, scoring points, and better field vision.

[cyclones18]

the reality is that in 10-11 games SJ has thrown 17 TD's to 18 INT plus fumbles of which he as at least 3 this season. just sayin

[isuno1fan]

I'd feel better with JB in there. Steele just scares the hell outta me with his decision making.

[Cycl1]

so is he benched yet?

[megamanxzero35]

When Jantz was named the starter I was nervous and well so far it has come true. Barnett is a smarter QB, but his arm is not very good. Rip me if you want I want Richardson to be given a chance I honestly think he has the best most accurate arm on this team. Put him in there do some short passes to build confidence and go from there, we do not need sexy we need an accurate arm with better decision making skills and owning TOP, scoring points, and better field vision.

What are you basing your Richardson accurate arm comments on? I too would honestly like Richardson because even with the 3rd string he led the offense with the zone read to a TD against W. Illinois. But he never threw once on that drive. They played zone read and I think a couple direct hand offs.

[NATEizKING]

With Steele in there I feel like we're always playing not to lose which gets us into situations where we have to make a play which turns in to a turnover.

[Doc]

You know whats wrong with that play..... we have a 3rd and 7, QB can't hit the broad side of a barn and Mess calls for 4 deep routes!? WTF

I think it was a great play call. It's an easy decision for Jantz to make. You ignore the two outside receivers, and focus on the 2 seam routes and White. If both safeties sit back and cover the seam routes, you throw it to White who is being covered by a linebacker. Easy first down if executed correctly since safeties will be pushed deep by the 4 deep routes.

If one of the safeties comes up to help on White, you look at one seam route to try to push the safety over, and throw it to the other seam route. This is exactly what Jantz did when he saw one safety creeping up. He couldn't scramble since the safety crept up and the safety and the LB would've owned Jantz and White if he tried to run for it.

I think Steele did nearly everything right mentally, and then made a great throw. The only quibble you could have with him is that he could've thrown it to West rather than Brun, but then West would be the guy getting lit up by the safety and I sure wouldn't want that. Brun just needed to hold onto the ball. Sometimes the defense just makes the play.

[megamanxzero35]

Andrew Logue made a good point on KXNO today. The playcalling could be handcuffing Jantz. All the special plays we remember about Jantz have been when he has rolled to his right and turned a broken play into something good. Jantz is obviously most comfortable on the move and looks like least comfortable running the zone read.

So my question is, what prevents the coaches playing to Jantz strength. No more zone read and how about pistol formation hand offs. Get the ground game going and then pull some bootleg play action where Jantz rolls to his right where he is most comfortable for big passing plays. Could still keep the bubble screens and perhaps even some RB screens