***Official Bench Steele Jantz thread***

[ISUAgronomist]

Anyone who thinks Jantz isn't part of the problem is delusional

Don't think anyone here has said he's without blame. It's not all on him either.

[TXCyclones]

Anyone who thinks Jantz isn't part of the problem is delusional

This is a valid point. He's not part of the problem. He is the whole problem.

[onenation]

Sadly we've seen that too. Pray to god we can recruit some stud or diamond in the rough really soon!

Team rohach

[cyatheart]

Even more disturbing. This was after a bye week where Mess said they used the first week to just improve themselves, then worked on Tech the second week. My god, imagine if they hadn't had that week to improve.

[cyatheart]

This is a valid point. He's not part of the problem. He is the whole problem.

Dude, you either aren't wathcing or delusional if you think this was on one guy tonight.

[ISUCubswin]

Not gonna read all the pages, but just to put in my .02

Our future is not Jared Barnett. Joel Lanning is a much better QB and I haven't seen Trevor Hodge but I'm sure he is great as well. Steele Jantz is not a good quarterback this year and should be benched if he starts off bad next week.

Sam Richardson can run AND pass. If anything, he should be our second string. If Jantz is benched, give Richardson some PT. Barnett, IMO, can not pass well enough at this level.

[TheBentStick]

I won't call out a player, but a certain QB would be more comfortable in a pro set offense. However, the coaches of this QB are madly in love with the zone read offense. Unless one of these two variables change, expect more of the same the rest of the year.

[twojman]

This is a valid point. He's not part of the problem. He is the whole problem.

Fail.

How would Aaron Rodgers be without an OL? Oh yeah, human. We are finding that out this year.

[rochclone]

What about the horrid offensive line? Very predictable play calling? Nope...it's all the QB.

Idiots.

Normally I would agree with an assertion like this, however I have a difficult time believing that Jantz gives us a better chance to win than Barnett. Jantz cannot run the spread option and oftentimes makes the incorrect read. Plus he is a senior and has shown zero improvement from last year. And quite frankly he has a serious confidence problem that is unlikely to get alot better. Hell, he played absolutely horrible in the 2nd half against Iowa and the only way we escaped Iowa City with a W is because of the tremendous play by our defense.

Barnett may not have the strongest arm but he makes the correct reads and I can live with that. It is difficult for me to understand how a RS Fr. can lead a team to a victory over the #2 ranked team in the country and then somehow lose the starting job. Rhoads and Messingham saw the same stuff from Jantz tonight (from the first drive) that they saw in the second half of the Iowa game. Rhoads says we need to value the ball and is always concerned about losing the TO margin and yet he continues to start the TO machine in Jantz. Every single game that we stick with Jantz is another game that we are taking away from the development of Jared Barnett in my opinion.

[ianoconnor]

I think giving another QB a chance after half would have been smart.

[Incyte]

If our passing game sucks regardless of qb, why not play the one who runs the zone read better?

[fwiw]

If our passing game sucks regardless of qb, why not play the one who runs the zone read better?

+100.

[TXCyclones]

Fail.

How would Aaron Rodgers be without an OL? Oh yeah, human. We are finding that out this year.

I bet Rodgers wouldn't have dropped the ball running all alone in clean air. He's just not good, and specifically he's not good at running zone read. He wasn't last year either.

[isuno1fan]

NOBODY turns the ball over as much as Steele. It's part of him or something. He can't get away from it.

[swarthmoreCY]

In a vacuum SJ is the best option.
However, he is bad on the zone read, which is apparently the only way we plan on running the ball. He get's flustered easily (in terms of having a pocket and pressure, Steele turns a leak into a flood) which is not good when you take an average Oline and make it bad due to a poor scheme.

If there is any good news from such pathetic play by the offense, is that there is nothing to lose in terms of making drastic, fundamental changes in scheme. Time for Mess to get creative.