While I am frustrated as most, it is premature to throw Mess under the bus. Sure, there is a relationship there with Rhoads, but I believe as a 'CEO', Rhoads will not sit idly by. Think that is why Herman is gone in the first place, Wells & Mess switched beforehand, etc. Jantz was brought in to 'up' the competition at quarterback, and I believe that is commonplace throughout the whole team at every position. Think that same mentality applies to the coaching staff. Has anyone been added in the past year to the staff at a 'lesser' position that would be pushing others? Hmmmmm...
Not saying is would happen mid-season, but the thought process is the same - the best man for the position. Think this is how Rhoads has shown he operates.
Mess is 4 games in as the OC but I completely understand the frustration with the offense.
If this ISU team was in the B1G they would be dominant. A team with a strong defense that makes up for a below average offense that doesn't put many points on the board can dominate in the B1G because all of their offenses are below average. The problem is in the Big XII it doesn't matter how strong your defense is. Oklahoma has 5 star talent all over the field on defense and they still get shredded on a regular basis in the Big XII. If you don't have an explosive offense that can put points on the board with great regularity against Big XII opponents you are going to lose. The Baylor - West Virginia game is a great example... Baylor's defense allowed 807 yards and 10 touchdowns and somehow Baylor was in the game until the final minute. Why? Because Baylor's offense can put points on the board. West Virginia won that game after their defense allowed 700 yards and 9 touchdowns. Why? Because their offense put the ball in the endzone on 10 of 13 offensive possessions. Oklahoma State went 12-1 last season with an absolutely awful defense. Why? Because their offense could put points on the board.
Last year was a great example. Penn State finished 6-2 in the B1G. That was good enough to finish in a tie for 1st place in their division of the conference (lost the tie breaker head to head).
Penn State's conference game scores...
@ Indiana 16-10 Win
vs. Iowa 13-3 Win
vs. Purdue 23-18 Win
@ Northwestern 34-24 Win
vs. Illinois 10-7 Win
vs. Nebraska 17-14 Loss
@ Ohio State 20-14 Win
@ Wisconsin 45-7 Loss
Penn State's total points scored in conference play: 137
Average points per game in conference play: 17.13
Average score in wins: 19.34-12.67
Average score in losses: 31-10.5
2011 Iowa State
Total points scored in conference play: 194
Average points per game in conference play: 21.5
Conference record: 3-6
Average score in wins: 30.34-16
Average score in losses: 37.84-17.17
In 2011 Iowa State averaged virtually the same amount of points in their 6 conference losses (losses by an average of over 20 points per game) as Penn State did in all of their conference games combined in which they compiled a 6-2 record.
You could change the system, but it will probably be worst than what we've seen so far this year. Tom H is a top 50 OC IMO in the nation. He is an above avg playcaller, he has only been an OC for 6 years since he started at Rice and that is counting this year at OSU. So he is still learning and why would've the god of the spread offense, Urban Meyer, signed him? Its cause he knows how good of a teacher he is.From what I've seen an heard he is a very good qb coach. I know that Braxton Miller is a great ath but Tom H will make this kid a heisman winner. I dont agree with coach mess as the OC, CPR should've hire somebody like Coach Gruden(i wish we could have him) but he has a great gig at MNF an he probably wont go for a position other than HC for a lot of money. Gruden knows how to teach and simplify a qb mechanics and he is very very good at teaching a qb in reading a defense and making progressions. Dont believe me watch Gruden's camp wt qbs in espn. All Isu football program needs is somebody like this. I know coach Mess played qb in uni, but he is not embodying wt the qb and his playcalling has been bad. Saturday was a day to throw 50 screens. Why ?since the o line was getting trolled and SJ couldnt get in rthyme, as a OC you want to get that ball out in space quick. This keeps the d line honest, you get a few yards, maybe break a big one, and your qb gets confident. FYI some threads were saying CPR and Tom H clashed. True last year agaisnt OU CPR grabbed the headset(while the camera was focused in CPR's face) and clearly said: run the damn ball!!!!
In the second half we went to a formation with two backs that was a big improvement on our scoring drive. Of course, then we stopped running it for some reason. I think we should lose the zone read as either it has been diagnosed or we just are not good at running it. I would like to see more of the two back set or pistol formation so that the running back is actually moving when he gets the ball.
Oh, and what is Mangino up to? If he came in for a couple of years I guarantee we see improvement and hickory Park's YTD sales jump up.