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Re: JB is NOT the better QB, but....
 Originally Posted by jdoggivjc TCU wasn't a top 10 team.
Look, it looks like putting in Barnett was the right call, but can we please use actual facts instead of making **** up? said top 10 defense, so the person "making **** up" would be you. :-)
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Re: JB is NOT the better QB, but....
 Originally Posted by ISUFan22 Regardless, ISU seems to win more games when he is under center. If you mean Big XII games, then yes you are correct.
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Re: JB is NOT the better QB, but....
 Originally Posted by SpokaneCY With him this game we are a better team... Fixed it for you.
Nice game by Jared.
We got a new Marshall here in town, and his name's Paul Rhoads, and the times, they is a'changin'.
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Re: JB is NOT the better QB, but....
 Originally Posted by jdoggivjc ???
Jantz had one play against TCU and picked up 8 yards scrambling on 3rd and 9.
EDIT: Excuse me - 7 yards on 3rd and 8 In this play Jantz had the first down if he continues to run but decides to juke a defender which allows him to tackle Jantz a yard short of the first down. Barnett had a similar play to scramble 5 yards on 3rd down and makes a quick decision to run a straight line and gets the first down. The offense ends up scoring on the drive.
Those two plays exemplifies to me why Jantz didn't start today.
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Re: JB is NOT the better QB, but....
I guess if this was a skills competion jantz would probably win but i think this is a team sport and the qb has to run the offense against another team. I think people so want jantz to be another seneca wallace and he may have the tools but cant get it together in a game. JB is not a complete qb but he gives us a better chance to win.
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Re: JB is NOT the better QB, but....
Jantz may have better tools physically but he's mentally just not a division 1 QB, for whatever reason he was never able to get over the hump. This is just a better team all around with JB at QB, we've looked like a better team against better competition the last 2 seasons with JB playing. Steele was an attempt to put a band aid over our QB situation, that attempt failed. JB isn't the answer to the QB problems in the future but he's a better solution right now than SJ.
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Re: JB is NOT the better QB, but....
Jantz has the potential to be the best QB on the roster, hes just not there. It would be awesome if he was a sophomore, but hes a raw senior. Similar to Irving, has the potential to easily be our best DE, he just isn't there.
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Re: JB is NOT the better QB, but....
 Originally Posted by RustShack Jantz has the potential to be the best QB on the roster, hes just not there. It would be awesome if he was a sophomore, but hes a raw senior. Similar to Irving, has the potential to easily be our best DE, he just isn't there. No it wouldn't because then we'd have to hear you tooting his horn for 2 more years. He is what he is and it's not a very good Big 12 QB. That said, I'm happy to have him as a backup.
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[QUOTE=CycloneErik;3091336]Barnett's the better QB overall, however that works out. The man's beaten 3 ranked teams now. I think we have to give it to him.
We are a better team when he is QB and although I've always been a SJ fan I now believe JB has to be our #1 for all the reasons we saw today. No More Hurting People, PEACE MARTIN RICHARD age 8 Boston, MA. CYCLONE CLUB AND SUNSHINE & RAINBOWS JIHAD MEMBER
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Re: JB is NOT the better QB, but....
It's like nobody even SAW the defense we were facing today. We're not going to face a more formidable D Line than that, those guys were HUGE and athletic. We clearly didn't get the best TCU offense today for obvious reasons, but it really ticks me off that some of you act like JB and the offense just went out there and just managed a game.
They played well on the road against a defense with elite talent. It was our best offensive game, even better than Tulsa. If that offense had shown up for every game the Iowa game would have been a 30 point blowout and we'd have likely beaten Tech. This is the most talented D we've faced and the scoreboard reads ISU 37.
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Re: JB is NOT the better QB, but....
Am I the only one who doesn't care who our QB, RB, or WR are as long as we win?
love the people on this board claiming they were right and others are wrong. So, you know more than Paul Rhoads? Coach was wrong and you were right? Jantz, Barnett, or Sam....whoever is the QB needs supported and these threads need to stop
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Re: JB is NOT the better QB, but....
 Originally Posted by Clones85' Am I the only one who doesn't care who our QB, RB, or WR are as long as we win?
love the people on this board claiming they were right and others are wrong. So, you know more than Paul Rhoads? Coach was wrong and you were right? Jantz, Barnett, or Sam....whoever is the QB needs supported and these threads need to stop This. Well said.
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Re: JB is NOT the better QB, but....
 Originally Posted by Clones85' Am I the only one who doesn't care who our QB, RB, or WR are as long as we win?
love the people on this board claiming they were right and others are wrong. So, you know more than Paul Rhoads? Coach was wrong and you were right? Jantz, Barnett, or Sam....whoever is the QB needs supported and these threads need to stop James White is better than Shontrelle.
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Re: JB is NOT the better QB, but....
 Originally Posted by Clones85' Am I the only one who doesn't care who our QB, RB, or WR are as long as we win? I don't give a damn who is starting as long as the they are winning. The three stooges could start for all I care as long as they were playing winning football.
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Re: JB is NOT the better QB, but....
 Originally Posted by HFCS It's like nobody even SAW the defense we were facing today. We're not going to face a more formidable D Line than that, those guys were HUGE and athletic. We clearly didn't get the best TCU offense today for obvious reasons, but it really ticks me off that some of you act like JB and the offense just went out there and just managed a game.
They played well on the road against a defense with elite talent. It was our best offensive game, even better than Tulsa. If that offense had shown up for every game the Iowa game would have been a 30 point blowout and we'd have likely beaten Tech. This is the most talented D we've faced and the scoreboard reads ISU 37. The TCU line ran 240-305-290-260. Big, not "HUGE" by any means. As I said before the game, the TCU D is very good, but overrated. They remain the one and only team this season to allow Dayne Crist and a woeful KU passing attack to eclipse 170 yards....he had 300 against them.
That being said, great rebound game for Mess and the O line and a well played game by JB.
 Originally Posted by ChrisMWilliams Fan-freaking-tastic. Love me some nhclone.
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