kickoff coverage

**isuno1fan** · 10-07-2012, 06:50 PM

We would kick it through the end zone everytime if we could. It's Arceo and not Rhoads. Need a stronger leg. I'd like to see the high and short kicks if we can't kick it out.

**clone2011** · 10-07-2012, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by VeloClone

Is that a fact? Are you sure that Rhoads isn't asking him to boot it high and just short of the goal line in some situations and kick it deep into the endzone on others? It seems like Arceo kicks it deep when situationally it might be demanded except yesterday they allowed a return a couple more times than I expected after allowing good returns. There are many times this season that the kicking team has stopped the return short of the 25. I'm not convinced that CPR isn't trying to give the other team a longer field since they touchback moved to the 25.

The fact I was referring to was the moving of the line of scrimmage, not the rest of my statement. Re-reading it, I could have worded it better.

Rhoads has commented earlier this season about wanting to see better kicks on kickoff from Arceo. I don't have the link to it, may have been a Monday press conference or DMR article. I think he talked about it quite a bit after Tulsa or Iowa. If we're not going to kick it to the endzone, then the coverage needs to improve if we're going to take the chance of them returning it from around the 5 yard line to stop them before the 25. If your goal is to let them return but stop them before they reach the 25 and your players aren't successful at stopping them there, then you should probably just boot it through the end zone and put them at the 25, IMO.

**CycloneWarning** · 10-07-2012, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by megamanxzero35

cfbstats.com - 2012 Iowa State Cyclones Kickoff Return Defense Game Log

Here are our stats for the year. Tulsa and TCU have been able to return it well.

cfbstats.com - 2012 Big 12 Conference Team Leaders

Here are the stats for the Big 12 and TCU leads the league in return yardage with KSU second.

Yes, kickoff coverage against Tulsa was poor. But then we really did an awesome job against Iowa, so I thought the problems had been fixed. TCU exposed us again. Need to tighten that up. Why is it we can never get a kicker that just blasts it deep?

**Rabbuk** · 10-07-2012, 08:34 PM

I dont know what the weather was like in Texas, but as it gets colder it's gonna be harder to get touchbacks.

**Acylum** · 10-07-2012, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by isuno1fan

We would kick it through the end zone everytime if we could. It's Arceo and not Rhoads. Need a stronger leg. I'd like to see the high and short kicks if we can't kick it out.

Agree with this- make the opponent go 75 yds against our defense each time we kick off and I like our chances.

**Wesley** · 10-07-2012, 08:51 PM

cfbstats.com - 2012 Iowa State Cyclones Place Kicking

Looking like our opponents fieldgoals percentage is better than our PAT percentage
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**Bigman38** · 10-07-2012, 08:52 PM

Are we really questioning the leg strength of a guy who has distance for a 60 yard fg? He can kick it far enough to get touchbacks, but the strategy has been to kick it as high as possible and have the returner catch it at the goal line. So far it has worked great 3 games, and all of a sudden was exposed again yesterday. We aren't West Virginia, we don't have the offense to just give away 5-10 yards of field position on every kickoff.

Will be interesting to see what we do Saturday, Dawson was pretty good but Lockett might be the best returner in the league.

**bostrem00** · 10-07-2012, 08:57 PM

Skye Dawson was good and they blocked well for him, but ISU does have a solid special teams....It was one game....

**istater7** · 10-07-2012, 09:18 PM

Didn't we have one touchback against TCU? EDIT: Actually, we had two, both with the wind at our backs im assuming. Also, we had one where he must have kicked it to the goal-line because they only returned it to the 23?

**jburke** · 10-07-2012, 10:30 PM

I think we have been good here this year but for whatever reason yesterday there was a ton of bad angles and over-run coverage, stay in your lane but know when to break it down.... Hopefully adjustments are made, because Lockett does frighten me....

**ZombieCyclone** · 10-08-2012, 08:35 AM

He kept making a first move to the inside and then breaking to the side line following the outside blocker. His acceleration got him 10 more yards everytime.

**redrocket22** · 10-08-2012, 09:18 AM

I'm not sure whether to be more concerned about the impact on games this year or if this is represents a step back in talent for next couple of years.

**awd4cy** · 10-08-2012, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by CYme

Is an out of bounds come out to the 35 or 40? Might be something to think about.

It's the 35 I believe. I think it was the 40 before this year, I could be wrong though.

**Baffan** · 10-08-2012, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by Bigman38

Are we really questioning the leg strength of a guy who has distance for a 60 yard fg? He can kick it far enough to get touchbacks, but the strategy has been to kick it as high as possible and have the returner catch it at the goal line. So far it has worked great 3 games, and all of a sudden was exposed again yesterday. We aren't West Virginia, we don't have the offense to just give away 5-10 yards of field position on every kickoff.

Will be interesting to see what we do Saturday, Dawson was pretty good but Lockett might be the best returner in the league.

QFT, anyone who thinks Arceo doesn't have the leg to kick it into the end zone is not paying attention. CPR commented on this before the season even began that the goal is to kick it high and near the goal line and force them to run it. The strategy didn't work well in the Tulsa game or TCU game, and worked very well in our other three games.

Arceo has kicked it into the endzone when the risk of a return was too great of risk, which was a couple times at the end of the game against TCU. Due to Kansas State having a great return team, and our coverage being hit or miss, I hope we change that game plan and kick it into the endzone against K-state. Too risky against them IMO.