2011 KSU game was closer than I remembered

[InMyOpinion]

I know last year's game was close, but I remember feeling that we were never going to get over the hump and win last year. I just looked at last year's stats, and wow... the only difference is the turnovers.

Via ESPN...
12:30 PM ET, December 3, 2011
Bill Snyder Stadium, MANHATTAN, KS

		1	2	3	4	T
	ISU	13	0	7	3	23
#8	KSU	7	10	3	10	30

	ISU	KSU
1st Downs	24	20
Total Yards	368	359
Passing	153	158
Rushing	215	201
Penalties	4-30	2-20
3rd Down Conversions	9-17	4-12
4th Down Conversions	2-4	0-0
Turnovers	2	0
Possession	31:00	29:00

[VeloClone]

While I like your post, I really believe that KSU 2012 is quite a bit better than KSU 2011.

[oldman]

Yep, we gave them all they wanted last year. Just couldn't get over the hump.

[Al_4_State]

There was a bad play call on a late 4th down deep in KSU territory. IIRC, it was a stretch run to Woody that KSU saw coming a mile away and blew up deep in the backfield.

[Cyclonestate78]

There was a bad play call on a late 4th down deep in KSU territory. IIRC, it was a stretch run to Woody that KSU saw coming a mile away and blew up deep in the backfield.

You are correct. It was a bit too conservative of a play call in that situation.

[peteypie]

While I like your post, I really believe that KSU 2012 is quite a bit better than KSU 2011.

I hate this post especially from our own fans. Yes they are likely better. But are we also a better team? I think yes.

[Al_4_State]

You are correct. It was a bit too conservative of a play call in that situation.

Too predictable, IMO. We needed to get Barnett out on a run/pass option. It was like 4th and 1. KSU was just bringing everything right up the middle of the field.

[Al_4_State]

While I like your post, I really believe that KSU 2012 is quite a bit better than KSU 2011.

I don't know if they're that much better. Remember, 2011 KSU won 10 games.

[Cyclonepride]

While I like your post, I really believe that KSU 2012 is quite a bit better than KSU 2011.

We are too. That game really could have gone either way, and if we play like we are capable of playing, this one can too.

[jbhtexas]

I know last year's game was close, but I remember feeling that we were never going to get over the hump and win last year. I just looked at last year's stats, and wow... the only difference is the turnovers.

And that is a huge difference. Many times that turnover stat (other than scoreboard) is the one that seems to matter the most. That's why Snyder's teams are so successful, because they don't give the ball away on offense.

If you knew nothing else, who would you guess won the game below?

	X	Y
1st Downs	15	24
Total Yards	350	455
Passing	198	270
Rushing	152	185
Penalties	5-43	6-70
3rd Down Conversions	4-13	5-15
4th Down Conversions	0-0	2-3
Turnovers	x	x
Possession	24:04	35:56

TCU won the statistical game rather handily, but it was all wiped out by turnovers.

[Cycsk]

There was a bad play call on a late 4th down deep in KSU territory. IIRC, it was a stretch run to Woody that KSU saw coming a mile away and blew up deep in the backfield.

That was an incredible defensive move to dive under our line to break up the play.

[Cycl1]

last three years combined we have lost by 19 points iirc.

[swarthmoreCY]

It has been a toss-up the past 3 years. KSU is better this year, but so is ISU. Time to get it done.

[AirWalke]

I seem to remember the game really close at the very end... weren't we tied with about 3 minutes to go before KSU scored the game winner?

[Luth4Cy]

While I like your post, I really believe that KSU 2012 is quite a bit better than KSU 2011.

So is ISU 2012! And it's finally back in Jack Trice!