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    Re: Final two offensive possesions

    Quote Originally Posted by InCytful View Post
    Their mistake on the first drive was to not run the football a bit. I think with 4 min and 2 TO, you can mix up the calls to keep the D honest.
    I think that drive was too pass-oriented, too. Time wasn't an issue, it was a matter of moving the ball, and I think ISU may have tried to outsmart KSU too much by going pass-first.

    This game had several points of questionable strategy, more a matter of being cumulative than anything bad in an isolated sense.
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    Re: Final two offensive possesions

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone87 View Post
    What happened with our last two possesions, Barnett was way off on most of his throws (with several well short of his targets). I thought he looked decent up until that point, if you take out the last two possesions Barnett was about 55% passing for the day and the offense seemed to be running alright under him with no major mistakes outside of that pick. The end of the game just seemed really strange to me, I just don't understand how you don't get the ball even close to the target, seemed like something was definitely off/wrong.
    Nothing happend. That is just all the better Barnet is right now. He isn't equipped to play against defenses like that. He is just extremely limited in what he can do against a defense with a heartbeat. Not a knock on the guy, it's just reality right now.

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    Re: Final two offensive possesions

    Here Is what I saw. I saw Shontrelle wide open on the outlet pass. KSU was playing prevent with 4 minutes left. Get the ball to Shontrelle, make some yards, get out of bounds. Then take your chance downfield.

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    Re: Final two offensive possesions

    The offense looked kind of rough on Saturday. There were lots of poor throws. Bummer way to end the game. The pick after getting a huge turnover was about the worst thing that could have happened.
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    Re: Final two offensive possesions

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUCubswin View Post
    Jantz would've done much more than Barnett today the final two drives. Barnett starting was the right move, Barnett finishing was the wrong move. If it were overtime, I would want Barnett back in the game.
    Thanks Nostradamus. Posts like this are the definition of idiocy. Remember last year in the bowl game versus Rutgers. How many plays did Jantz make when they took out Barnett for him? It was a number between -1 and 1. I will let you guess. But he did throw two picks, which is awesome right? This doesn't work, period. It is why everyone who knows the game hates the idea of platooning QBs.

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    Re: Final two offensive possesions

    Quote Originally Posted by johnwayne View Post
    Here Is what I saw. I saw Shontrelle wide open on the outlet pass. KSU was playing prevent with 4 minutes left. Get the ball to Shontrelle, make some yards, get out of bounds. Then take your chance downfield.
    He tried the previous play. It was just a nightmare pass. And seeing the way Shontrelle had been running that game, he could have had a clear shot to the sideline, but would have stutter-stepped for a minute to allow the defense to close and tackle him. I really missed White yesterday.
    Last edited by brett108; 10-14-2012 at 03:46 PM.

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    Re: Final two offensive possesions

    this game simply shows how inept our QB play is, in addition to our play calling. hurry up offense is just code for zone read...every first down they got, they promptly followed it up with a zone read for 1 yard....its mcarney era play calling. barnett doesn't net us much and i think texas tech defense is really just that much better than our offense. regardless, barnett isn't the answer long term...may as well put in richardson. less than 60% passing is attrocious....

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    Re: Final two offensive possesions

    Quote Originally Posted by MSP View Post
    this game simply shows how inept our QB play is, ....

    This----------We are playing the best QBs we have. Too bad one isn't a lot better than the others or there wouldn't be a question.
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    Re: Final two offensive possesions

    Barnett missed some wide open guys on the last two possessions. Play calling not great the whole game. Clearly Barnett just does not throw the ball well. Against TCU, guys were catching those throws at their ankles. On the other hand, while he does not always make the best decisions, he makes better decisions than Steele. Steele can throw a nice looking ball but he makes scary decisions. If you could combine one's head and the other's arm into one quarterback, we'd have an upgrade. Even just watching them warmup, Steele just throws a a better ball. My guess is easier to improve Barnett's throws than Steele's thought process. Those little short throws that should be easier for Barnett, he can't even get over the line.

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    Re: Final two offensive possesions

    Quote Originally Posted by carvers4math View Post
    Barnett missed some wide open guys on the last two possessions. Play calling not great the whole game. Clearly Barnett just does not throw the ball well. Against TCU, guys were catching those throws at their ankles. On the other hand, while he does not always make the best decisions, he makes better decisions than Steele. Steele can throw a nice looking ball but he makes scary decisions. If you could combine one's head and the other's arm into one quarterback, we'd have an upgrade. Even just watching them warmup, Steele just throws a a better ball. My guess is easier to improve Barnett's throws than Steele's thought process. Those little short throws that should be easier for Barnett, he can't even get over the line.
    Lenz really had to get low to catch those balls at his ankles on those huge TDs. Our receivers haven't made spectacular catches since Todd Bythe ran out of eligibility. Barnett threw alot of very good balls and some poor ones, but he didn't make nearly as many turnover producing throws as Jantz normally does, so we keep him. We need to run the football better, take some pressure off Barnett, and then see how he does. We need James White back.

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    Re: Final two offensive possesions

    After reading all of the endless fails in this thread, I am so glad none of these Sunday-morning coaches are on the ISU staff.
    They say that English surnames came from what you did with your life. I'm so glad my last name isn't Dickinson.

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