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    Re: Why not run the football?

    If I remember right we tried that and Johnson started off something like 5 tries for 4 yards...

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    Re: Why not run the football?

    How soon will we get James White back? I don't think the OL issues were as prevalent when he was around.
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    Re: Why not run the football?

    Quote Originally Posted by WhatchaGonnaDo View Post
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    Re: Why not run the football?

    Quote Originally Posted by ISpyCy View Post
    How soon will we get James White back? I don't think the OL issues were as prevalent when he was around.
    His status was 2-3 weeks out. Been out 2 so far.


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    Re: Why not run the football?

    Quote Originally Posted by geburgess View Post
    The drastic measure is a return to the run game. Right now, every defense that lines up against us is playing the pass because we are basically a 2:1 pass-rush ratio right now. Who cares how efficient the run game is, make them respect and play the run and put more than 5 in the box. If we have 4 wide and they are dropping 6 or 7 in coverage, it's no great surprise our pass game is floundering.
    If teams are playing the pass, then we are in even BIGGER trouble. How can we not run the football against a team that is playing their guys back to cover the pass?

    WE. CAN'T. RUN. THE. BALL!!!!! What is so hard to understand about that? The OL is terrible. Shontrelle had NOWHERE to go all day long.

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    Re: Why not run the football?

    Quote Originally Posted by ess108 View Post
    We attempted so many passes today because we were down most of the game. Balance would be great but when you don't run effectively and you fall behind by a couple scores you can't waste the clock by running.
    Barnett threw 28 passes in the first half. That is about 2X too many. Just totally unacceptable to ask JB to do that, he just doesn't have the tools to do that. You cannot put him in that position.

    I counted 5 or 6 called handoffs to the back. Most of them were totally unsucccesful.


    It's all around. For some reason we got JB throwing 30 times a half, then Steele running the read option when it should be the exact opposite. The line play is not where it needs to be, not even close, our linemen look small, slow and weak. I even started to wonder if they are not in shape today. The offense looks poorly coached all around with not a lot of talent anyway. It appears there is zero leadership on the offensive side of the ball.

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    Re: Why not run the football?

    Quote Originally Posted by atlantacyclone View Post
    If I remember right we tried that and Johnson started off something like 5 tries for 4 yards...
    Shontrelle doesn't hit the hole hard or fast enough which is important when the line can't hold blocks. White does a better job of that.

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    Re: Why not run the football?

    When our running qb is passing too much and our passing qb is throwing picks and keeping on the read option you have to point a finger at the OC.

    Our O line is a mess but our O coord is named mess.
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    Re: Why not run the football?

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    Can't block, can't run.
    This. Our oline is better at pass blocking than running. Looking like Aubuurn Tigers. The guys are too tall, too skinny, and not enough bump in the rump.
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    Re: Why not run the football?

    Quote Originally Posted by cstrunk View Post
    Let me see some I-Formation. Run options, counters, sweeps, and dives. Throw in play-action to keep the defense honest. Run the clock to keep the score low and keep our defense fresh.

    It couldn't be any worse than what we're doing now.
    This is dumber than the OP. WHo in the hell is built to run out of the I besides Woody? WHo in the hell can block a counter or a sweep?
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    Re: Why not run the football?

    Quote Originally Posted by geburgess View Post
    The drastic measure is a return to the run game. Right now, every defense that lines up against us is playing the pass because we are basically a 2:1 pass-rush ratio right now. Who cares how efficient the run game is, make them respect and play the run and put more than 5 in the box. If we have 4 wide and they are dropping 6 or 7 in coverage, it's no great surprise our pass game is floundering.
    You don't get it. Teams aren't playing anything. They are controlling our run game with six guys, if not less. Just because you can't run doesn't mean the defense is allowing you to throw. Just because you can't throw doesn't mean they will allow you to run. We just can't do anything well so there is no opportunity to use any sort of leverage.
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    Re: Why not run the football?

    I don't know why we just don't power Woody through the line more often to set up the pass. I would argue that they did try to run the ball ergo we ended up with something like 12 three and outs.

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    Re: Why not run the football?

    I have ZERO doubt that the staff would run 75% of the time if they could. But the OL can't block for that kind of running game. So we're stuck with a game manager at QB trying to win games with his arm. It all comes down to the OL.

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    Re: Why not run the football?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frak View Post
    I have ZERO doubt that the staff would run 75% of the time if they could. But the OL can't block for that kind of running game. So we're stuck with a game manager at QB trying to win games with his arm. It all comes down to the OL.
    I said this last week....teams are shooting the play side gaps to stop the zone read. To counter that, we have option in our play book. However, the OC has to call the play that works. If you put the back in the pistol, the field stats balanced. We got in the pistol once and ran stretch. Shontrelle got 4 and we never got back in it. We got in a power set with Woody and Shontrelle and ran read option. JB read the play side DE and faked to Woody, he and Trelle ran option for 12 yards. We can run the football if we put the guys in plays where they can be successful.
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    Re: Why not run the football?

    This "we can't run the ball" is BS. Compiled a table of the drives and play calls. Not perfect, because I made the TD pass a run, and some of the scrambles I assigned as passes, etc. But what it shows is that when we TRY to run the ball, we have longer drives and more 1st downs. It's just that easy. Even if you can't run great, you have to be balanced.
    Three longest drives the yards came on passes, but the balance is what set it up.

    For crying out loud, if I can find this, c'mon Mess, RUN THE FOOTBALL !!

    drive # qtr run pass plays 1st downs result
    14 4 6 7 13 4 downs
    1 1 4 5 9 3 TD
    12 3 3 5 8 2
    8 2 1 6 7 2
    3 1 1 5 6 2 FG
    6 2 1 3 4 1
    10 3 1 3 4 1
    2 1 2 1 3 0 3 and out
    4 2 1 2 3 0 3 and out
    5 2 0 3 3 0 3 and out
    7 2 0 3 3 0 3 and out
    9 3 0 3 3 0 int
    13 4 0 3 3 0 3 and out
    11 3 1 0 1 0 fumble
    21 49 70 15

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