Tidbit on Saturday's game

**ChrisMWilliams** · 11-01-2012, 10:25 AM

The Cyclones are 5-3. The Sooners are 5-2. That's five combined losses for the two programs. Add up the records of the five teams that have beaten Iowa State and Oklahoma this season and it's 35-4. Not bad.

**CLONECONES** · 11-01-2012, 10:34 AM

very impressive.

**Bigman38** · 11-01-2012, 10:40 AM

stupid OSU...

**Bret44** · 11-01-2012, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisMWilliams

The Cyclones are 5-3. The Sooners are 5-2. That's five combined losses for the two programs. Add up the records of the five teams that have beaten Iowa State and Oklahoma this season and it's 35-4. Not bad.

With all of those loses coming from the Teams that have beat us. DAMN YOU TECH AND OSU! DAMN YOU STRAIGHT TO HELL!

**ISUFB** · 11-01-2012, 10:57 AM

We should be 6-2 or 7-1...
Tech and K-State.... Opportunities missed.

**Boxerdaddy** · 11-01-2012, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by ISUFB

We should be 6-2 or 7-1...
Tech and K-State.... Opportunities missed.

Coulda woulda shoulda. No point in discussing that...but I agree we have missed some opportunities.

**atlantacyclone** · 11-01-2012, 11:01 AM

Unfortunately, all four of the losses come from teams that beat us. We could have just as easily let Iowa slip through our fingers and it would be very tough right now. I hope that our D holds up without Knott. Maybe we sneak a win this weekend... GO CYCLONES!

**Cyclonz** · 11-01-2012, 11:26 AM

KST beat OU by 5 and us by 6 both on the road. Jack Trice and a crazy inspired crowd can give us the edge - as always we need to win the turnover battle - I think I heard CPR state on his show we are undefeated the past 2 or 3 years when we win the turnover battle.

**CyFan61** · 11-01-2012, 11:30 AM

The Good: We are better than our record indicates

The Bad: So is Oklahoma

**Cyclonestate78** · 11-01-2012, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by CyFan61

The Good: We are better than our record indicates

The Bad: So is Oklahoma

I completely agree with the first part. The second part... that I am not so sure about. Over the years and this year as well the one thing that has been the weakness of the Oklahoma football team is D-E-F-E-N-S-E, and I am not talking about OU's defensive unit. Oklahoma's bread and butter is their offense. Oklahoma can throw the ball all over the field but only when their run game is clicking. Much like Baylor's offense... if you can put the clamps on OU's running game their offense becomes much easier to slow down. In their loss to K-State the Sooners were held to 88 yards on the ground. In their loss to Notre Dumb the Sooners were held to an amazing 15 yards rushing.

**ISUCY23** · 11-01-2012, 12:01 PM

Does anyone else love the word tidbit as much as I do? Such a great word...IMO

**Cycsk** · 11-01-2012, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisMWilliams

The Cyclones are 5-3. The Sooners are 5-2. That's five combined losses for the two programs. Add up the records of the five teams that have beaten Iowa State and Oklahoma this season and it's 35-4. Not bad.

That is an amazing stat.

**Max57** · 11-01-2012, 02:25 PM

"Lies, damned lies, and statistics", Mark Twain.

It's four teams not five (K-State beat each of us)
All four losses belong to the teams that have beaten I-State only (Tech and OSU).
OU has lost to two undefeated teams - albeit each at home.

We've lost to 3 decent-to-good teams and played bad offensive games in two of those. It's water under the bridge. Beat OU.

**theyork** · 11-01-2012, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by ISUFB

We should be 6-2 or 7-1...
Tech and K-State.... Opportunities missed.

i think it is safe to say that kstate and ttech are clearly better teams than us at this point. could we have won? sure, but we didn't. watching each of those games, i felt we were going to lose throughout. we couldn't muster anything offensively and if you look at the stats, we got dominated in those games. the defense just kept us in them.

we also could have easily lost to tcu and iowa. playing the woulda coulda shoulda game can go both ways.

**CyFan61** · 11-01-2012, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by theyork

i think it is safe to say that kstate and ttech are clearly better teams than us at this point. could we have won? sure, but we didn't. watching each of those games, i felt we were going to lose throughout. we couldn't muster anything offensively and if you look at the stats, we got dominated in those games. the defense just kept us in them.

we also could have easily lost to tcu and iowa. playing the woulda coulda shoulda game can go both ways.

Putting those games in order of how easily they could have flipped:

1) Iowa, if Knott doesn't make the pick at the end, they are close to a TD.
2) K-State, if we can pull off one long drive
3) Tech
4) TCU

Going 2-2 in those four games is to be expected. That's not to say that we couldn't have gone 3-1 or 4-0, but saying "We should be 6-2 or 7-1" is just not correct