Williams: Sooners out-execute the Cyclones

**UNIGuy4Cy** · 11-04-2012, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by TXCyclones

It's Overreaction Sunday! Apparently yesterday everybody was still euphoric from not getting blown out, but today we look like we're critical of every aspect of the team, except for our kickers. We knew we'd need to execute a perfect game to win, but we didn't do that. While moral victories suck, I'm OK with how we played yesterday. Not perfect, but we played well. Jantz's second game showed he's continuing to play smarter than we've seen in early season. He needs help from receivers but guys are coming along. I think we win at least two of the next three and likely all three.

Is 15 points now considered a blowout?

**TXCyclones** · 11-04-2012, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by UNIGuy4Cy

Is 15 points now considered a blowout?

Not at all, which is why I said we didn't get blown out. Apparently you think it is? A blowout against fOU is what happened to UT. They beat us by two possessions; one of which was the garbage TD to end the half. If we clean up the lapse of judgement we win that game.

**CloneIce** · 11-04-2012, 01:56 PM

Chris, is Givens really a Junior or was that a typo? I thought he was a senior but I would love it if we had him for another year.

**UNIGuy4Cy** · 11-04-2012, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by TXCyclones

Not at all, which is why I said we didn't get blown out. Apparently you think it is? A blowout against fOU is what happened to UT. They beat us by two possessions; one of which was the garbage TD to end the half. If we clean up the lapse of judgement we win that game.

Misread my bad

**TXCyclones** · 11-04-2012, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by UNIGuy4Cy

Misread my bad

Word. No worries. Figured that might have been the case.

**SplitIdentity** · 11-04-2012, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by TXCyclones

Not at all, which is why I said we didn't get blown out. Apparently you think it is? A blowout against fOU is what happened to UT. They beat us by two possessions; one of which was the garbage TD to end the half. If we clean up the lapse of judgement we win that game.

Huh? This game was the result of more than just "lapses in judgement." OU dominated every aspect. Not to say ISU is bad, or couldn't have changed some things, but OU physically dominated the trenches, time of possession, and play calling (for the most part). OU clearly came out to win that game.

**Clonebey** · 11-04-2012, 02:11 PM

For a record breaking crowd yesterday, to me it seemed pretty quiet...maybe it was just me, Anyone else think this??

**swarthmoreCY** · 11-04-2012, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by SplitIdentity

but OU physically dominated the trenches, time of possession, and play calling (for the most part). OU clearly came out to win that game.

Did they? I did not see that..well not until the defense was hung out to dry by the offense (which struggled on its own many times). I also would not call a lack of pressure by ISU's 4 DLinemen against 5 OU OLinemen getting dominated in the trenches.

The area OU dominated was OU WR vs ISU DB and ISU WR vs OU DB. The loss of Jansen was huge.

**TXCyclones** · 11-04-2012, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by SplitIdentity

Huh? This game was the result of more than just "lapses in judgement." OU dominated every aspect. Not to say ISU is bad, or couldn't have changed some things, but OU physically dominated the trenches, time of possession, and play calling (for the most part). OU clearly came out to win that game.

D brain farted at the end of the half, and then we got beat by Stills in the corner over and over. fOU came to play and beat us by 2 possessions. When you really break it down it could have easily only been a one possession loss, and if the coaches had figured out sooner that Stokes was getting lit up I think we could have stopped that too. For being "dominated" we did pretty ******* well.

And we did pretty well when we sent three at the line. I don't think we were ever dominated, except by Stills.

**SplitIdentity** · 11-04-2012, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY

Did they? I did not see that..well not until the defense was hung out to dry by the offense (which struggled on its own many times). I also would not call a lack of pressure by ISU's 4 DLinemen against 5 OU OLinemen getting dominated in the trenches.

The area OU dominated was OU WR vs ISU DB and ISU WR vs OU DB. The loss of Jansen was huge.

OU ran nearly 100 plays, and was able to get a consistent 3-4 yards per carry on the ground, finishing with 188 yards rushing. Not saying it was men vs. boys, but OU really imposed their will as far as offense vs. defense, and was able to stifle ISU most of the time.

What I took as a positive was, that even with OU putting up those offensive numbers, the defense was able to stop several times giving the offense opportunities that they couldn't take advantage of. Maybe that was defensive playcalling, maybe it was the lack of Knott, I dunno. It certainly didn't feel like a blowout, but it also never felt like ISU was going to pull an OSU either.

**SplitIdentity** · 11-04-2012, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by TXCyclones

D brain farted at the end of the half, and then we got beat by Stills in the corner over and over. fOU came to play and beat us by 2 possessions. When you really break it down it could have easily only been a one possession loss, and if the coaches had figured out sooner that Stokes was getting lit up I think we could have stopped that too. For being "dominated" we did pretty ******* well.

Obviously you're looking at this with your glasses on, which is fine. But "if if ands and buts were candy and nuts...".

You sound like the 'other fans' that get ridiculed on here so much. "Without that one touchdown it would have been a one score game, and without that other one it would have gone to OT."

**TXCyclones** · 11-04-2012, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by SplitIdentity

OU ran nearly 100 plays, and was able to get a consistent 3-4 yards per carry on the ground, finishing with 188 yards rushing. Not saying it was men vs. boys, but OU really imposed their will as far as offense vs. defense, and was able to stifle ISU most of the time.

What I took as a positive was, that even with OU putting up those offensive numbers, the defense was able to stop several times giving the offense opportunities that they couldn't take advantage of. Maybe that was defensive playcalling, maybe it was the lack of Knott, I dunno. It certainly didn't feel like a blowout, but it also never felt like ISU was going to pull an OSU either.

I think it says a hell of a lot more about ISU than it does fOU to see that OU had that many yards in the air and on the ground and STILL couldn't maximize on it! That is not domination.

**TXCyclones** · 11-04-2012, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by SplitIdentity

Obviously you're looking at this with your glasses on, which is fine. But "if if ands and buts were candy and nuts...".

You sound like the 'other fans' that get ridiculed on here so much. "Without that one touchdown it would have been a one score game, and without that other one it would have gone to OT."

Funny, you sound like a Halkeye fan.

**jdoggivjc** · 11-04-2012, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY

Did they? I did not see that..well not until the defense was hung out to dry by the offense (which struggled on its own many times). I also would not call a lack of pressure by ISU's 4 DLinemen against 5 OU OLinemen getting dominated in the trenches.

The area OU dominated was OU WR vs ISU DB and ISU WR vs OU DB. The loss of Jansen was huge.

I agree with this a lot. The OL played, for the most part, a very good game yesterday. Jantz had a lot of time to throw, and as a result, generally made good decisions all day. We were also generally able to run on Oklahoma's defense. The problem was our WRs let us down all day - dropping passes, running the wrong route, getting blown off routes, not getting separation, and not blocking for one another. The defense played well enough all day until they spent too much time on the field. Yeah, the secondary wasn't great, but I, along with everyone else just don't agree with that 3-man front. We defended the pass much better by bringing heat than we did dropping 8 into coverage and we should have done that more yesterday. But back to spending too much time on the field, the offense didn't help out much with that, partly because our WRs couldn't hang onto the ball.

**swarthmoreCY** · 11-04-2012, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by SplitIdentity

OU ran nearly 100 plays, and was able to get a consistent 3-4 yards per carry on the ground, finishing with 188 yards rushing. Not saying it was men vs. boys, but OU really imposed their will as far as offense vs. defense, and was able to stifle ISU most of the time.

Not sure what part of "well not until the defense was hung out to dry by the offense". you did not understand. OU's offense was too much, as was their defense, but it was not due to getting dominated in the trenches. OU's WR and QB combo was too accurate. ISU WR could not get open, and when they did, had some key drops.