I thought the fine was spot on. It was a dirty hit to the head of a QB. The fact that he was right at the line of scrimmage is a mute point. The NFL doesn't want people going after the head and that's what Dobbins did.
For the people saying he didn't deserve to be fined: Have you followed the NFL this year? The league is being over cautious about hits to the head and illegal tackles.
If Mike Vick and Matt Hasselbeck got fined for horsecollar tackles after INTs, then Dobbins definitely deserves a hefty fine for that hit.
For the people saying he didn't deserve to be fined: Have you followed the NFL this year? The league is being over cautious about hits to the head and illegal tackles.
If Mike Vick and Matt Hasselbeck got fined for horsecollar tackles after INTs, then Dobbins definitely deserves a hefty fine for that hit.
You said yourself they are being over cautious. Just because they are being over cautious does not equate to Dobbins deserving a fine. I get the flag, but I don't get the fine, especially a fine of that size. If he is going to get that big of a fine for pulling up he might as well drive the QB into the ground and get his money's worth. Maybe another poster is right; it is more about his comments after the game. I didn't see nor read those.
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Seems pretty obvious the penalty was the right call by definition explained on that site. Additionally, the fine is probably more for his post game comments thus sending a message to players that maybe still don't "get it" about the new rules to protect against concussions. Having said all that - it kind of sucks that the game has changed in this regard but the league had to do something with players having terrible issues after their playing days and more publicity and medical data on the topic.
good link! I pretty much agree with the explanation.
The owners are being sued for millions of dollars by former players because of conciussions. There is potential for many more such lawsuits. They are doing everything possible to demonstrate that they are trying to curb the problem - even to the point of fining players who probably don't deserve it.
Well, when you watch Cutler's head and neck get whiplashed on the Dobbins hit, it makes me cringe. Then, about 4 plays after this one after he's already concussed, Cutler took another pretty good shot diving head first for a first down. No flag on that one though, but might be what you are thinking of.
Nope I downloaded the game from tenyard torrent and you can clearly see helmet to helmet contact at 28:07 of the 2nd quarter video. Jay's head takes a sharp left hand turn. No way can anyone argue there is no contact there. I will try and get a vid or pics posted but to argue otherwise from what I'm seeing is ridiculous. Plus Dobbins is 3.5 yards away when the ball is released...then he leans into him and jumps up into him. Just because he pulls his hands back after the hit doesn't mean he didn't hit him.
Again, I don't think it's a dirty play but it is definitely fine-able and illegal.
Well, when you watch Cutler's head and neck get whiplashed on the Dobbins hit, it makes me cringe. Then, about 4 plays after this one after he's already concussed, Cutler took another pretty good shot diving head first for a first down. No flag on that one though, but might be what you are thinking of.
Cutler got up a little slow but seemed to be ok after the hit from Dobbins. Then I noticed in the huddle and prior to taking snaps on the next few plays he kept leaning his head to the right over and over as if to stretch out his neck but you could tell something wasn't right. The guy always looks like he is dazed but it was a bit more then normal. The thing that really surprised me is that he was allowed to continue playing after that hit. Did the Chicago training staff even evaluate the guy on the sideline at all? Seemed strange to me with the League's focus on concussions that the guy was allowed to continue playing and finish the 1st half only to find out at halftime that he had a concussion.
If you evaluate on the sideline and find him with signs of concussion, he is out of the game immediately and will not return. I think they were giving him time to shake the cobwebs off, so they probably asked him if he was OK and let it go at that. At halftime it probably became obvious he wasn't going to be able to return.
If you evaluate on the sideline and find him with signs of concussion, he is out of the game immediately and will not return. I think they were giving him time to shake the cobwebs off, so they probably asked him if he was OK and let it go at that. At halftime it probably became obvious he wasn't going to be able to return.
I can buy that. It just seemed strange and maybe they couldn't tell from the sidelines but on tv it was obvious that something wasn't right.
I Just got into an argument with my boss about this. I was saying that it deserved a flag, but the whole fine thing was a load, imo. Cutler was on the run, past ths LOS and wasn't sliding. Quaterbacks can't have it both ways. When you are on the run, at the line of scrimmage, you are going to get hit. IF you don't like that, then they just have to change the rule to anytime a defender touches the QB, he's down, that's it. Dobbins should have pulled up earlier, I'll agree with that, but this still looks to me like one of those plays where he really thought Cutler was going to run so he didn't want to miss the tackle and committed too much.
Plus, I still have the question how you can have a Roughing the QB on a play like that, where the QB was passed the LOS and even flagged for it. What are players supposed to do, hope the QB falls down instead of run?
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