Barnett

[jmb]

Just one play from the line of scrimmage I would like to see all three line up in the back field, that would really **** with the d-coordinator.

[CRAZYGREG]

FIFY.

And we would go on to beat 3 ranked teams!! Yeah, but he sucks though.

[CyDude16]

And we would go on to beat 3 ranked teams!! Yeah, but he sucks though.

I didnt know he beat them all by himself.

Look at his stats, he has regressed this season. Unfortunately, it's a shame neither Jantz nor JB could get it done and seal the job. Obviously thats not the case...

CrazyGreg you are as pro Barnett as Clones21 is pro Jantz... And both of you are morons.

[CRAZYGREG]

I didnt know he beat them all by himself.

Look at his stats, he has regressed this season. Unfortunately, it's a shame neither Jantz nor JB could get it done and seal the job. Obviously thats not the case...

CrazyGreg you are as pro Barnett as Clones21 is pro Jantz... And both of you are morons.

No - I am just REALLY REALLY anti-Jantz and very appreciative that Barnett was able to get us some very good signature wins. I have 0 problems with SR taking over - anyone BUT Jantz!

[Palmer]

regardless of what happens...JB will always be a part of ISU history with beating No #2. Great teammate....even better person off the field.

[CyDude16]

No - I am just REALLY REALLY anti-Jantz and very appreciative that Barnett was able to get us some very good signature wins. I have 0 problems with SR taking over - anyone BUT Jantz!

Stats are very telling this season who the less ******** of the two options were...

Look it up. Or I'll save you the time. 13 Tds-11 int 63% comp ; 6 tds-4 ints 48% comp

One of which has been playing qb quite a bit longer then the other.. There is some dose of reality for you.

[CRAZYGREG]

JB: 1-2 in the BIg 12 (win on the road over #13 TCU)
SJ: 1-3 (only win over the worst defense in college football history)

Sorry numbers don't lie

JB never got the chance to play any non-conference games.

[cyhiphopp]

Stats are very telling this season who the less ******** of the two options were...

Look it up. Or I'll save you the time. 13 Tds-11 int 63% comp ; 6 tds-4 ints 48% comp

One of which has been playing qb quite a bit longer then the other.. There is some dose of reality for you.

Stats are fine to look at, but they don't tell you what teams they played against and I'd rather have ****ty stats and a win than decents stats and only one conference win.

[cyhiphopp]

I like the potential Jantz had as a starter, but he wasn't able to deliver on that potential enough to win conference games other than Baylor.

JB has his limitations and has not played his best this season. That doesn't mean he can't improve and provides no value to the QB depth chart.

[CRAZYGREG]

Starts only:

JB: 47-96 (48.96%) 6 TDs 3 Ints

SJ(minus crappy Baylor) 45-89 (50.56%) 2 TDs 6 Ints

[CyDude16]

Starts only:

JB: 47-96 (48.96%) 6 TDs 3 Ints

SJ(minus crappy Baylor) 45-89 (50.56%) 2 TDs 6 Ints

lolololol take out a game because it was against a terrible defense and want to make your guy look better. (The same D that just beat K-state and held them to under 30 points)

I've never once said Jantz was stellar, both struggled this year and weren't getting the job done. But the team is bigger then one guy. Our whole offense had struggles, even outside of the qb play.

[Luth4Cy]

JB: 1-2 in the BIg 12 (win on the road over #13 TCU)
SJ: 1-3 (only win over the worst defense in college football history)

Sorry numbers don't lie

JB never got the chance to play any non-conference games.

I don't want to defend CyDude16 but JB did get a couple chances in non-conference. He looked awful last year vs. Rutgers and the same in his two possessions this year vs. Western Illinois. Also, that defense you call one of the worst in college football history just kept a team out of the National Title game.

[CRAZYGREG]

Even if you put the numbers in SJ has 7 TDs and 7 INTs. JB has 6-3

So a 2-1 ratio or a 1-1 ratio.... hmmmmm that is not even including fumbles

[swarthmoreCY]

Stats are fine to look at, but they don't tell you what teams they played against and I'd rather have ****ty stats and a win than decents stats and only one conference win.

People still think there is a difference between JB and Jantz? JFC.
JB and Jantz are not difference makers, at least in a positive way. Neither of them have a conference win where you can say outstanding play by the QB was the reason ISU won. JB would be 1-3 this year if he went against TT, Baylor, OU, and UT. JB starting against MU, UT, Baylor, and A$M would not have led to wins.

[CyDude16]

Even if you put the numbers in SJ has 7 TDs and 7 INTs. JB has 6-3

So a 2-1 ratio or a 3-1 ratio.... hmmmmm that is not even including fumbles

Can't even admit JB wasn't getting the job done either yet?

Good grief.