Who ISU needs to root for this weekend

**alarson** · 11-24-2012, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by FDWxMan

Ironically, if OU actually pulls off the comeback, it actually helps drive nails into the coffin of locking the Big XII into 1 BCS bid.

I'm not sure how that would be. OU is the best chance for a second BCS bid...

**IHavNoCyCash** · 11-24-2012, 05:37 PM

if Texas beats KSU and OU beats OSU

OU- Fiesta
KSU- Cotton
Texas- Alamo
OSU- BWW
Tech- Holiday
TCU- Texas
WVU- Pinstripe
Baylor- HOD Bowl

ISU- at-large

if Texas beats KSU and OSU beats OU

KSU- Fiesta
Texas-Cotton
OSU- Alamo
OU- BWW
Tech- Holiday
TCU- Texas
WVU- Pinstripe
Baylor- HOD Bowl

ISU- at-large

**Skidoosh** · 11-24-2012, 05:39 PM

After this season, I have a feeling Oklahoma and Texas are going to be swinging hard to expand and maybe even re-create the north/south.

**huntt26** · 11-24-2012, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by Messi

So.... looking at possible at-large bowl positions:

Beef-O-Brady bowl probably won't get their #6 Big East spot

Little Ceasers bowl won't fill their #8 Big Ten spot

Independence Bowl could be an option

Pinstripe feels like a BCS bowl compared to those

**FDWxMan** · 11-24-2012, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by alarson

I'm not sure how that would be. OU is the best chance for a second BCS bid...

Because it's going to get a non-AQ into the top 16 and ahead of the Big East champ. That's an auto bid for Boise or Kent St.

See my posts above -- 2 SEC + 2 Pac + ND + a mid major Auto leaves 1 each for Big East ACC Big 12 and Big 10 for the 10 slots.

**IHavNoCyCash** · 11-24-2012, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by FDWxMan

They'll probably be there tomorrow, so unless Boise gets upset and NIU beats Kent St...

Michigan will stay ahead of both. and likely other teams will

**alarson** · 11-24-2012, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by huntt26

Pinstripe feels like a BCS bowl compared to those

St Petersburg, FL would be rather nice.

**MLawrence** · 11-24-2012, 05:40 PM

Some non-Big XII bowls where ISU could possibly go:

1. Music Bowl @ Nashville, TN taking ACC #6 selection
2. Beef O'Brady Bowl @ St. Petersburg, FL taking Big East #6 selection
3. BVAA Bowl @ Birmingham, AL taking Big East #5 selection
4. Independence Bowl @ Shreveport, LA taking ACC #7 selection
5. Military Bowl @ Washington DC taking ACC #8 selection
6. Liberty Bowl @ Memphis, TN taking SEC #8 or #9 selection

SEC currently has 8 teams bowl eligible with 2 teams in the BCS.
ACC currently has 6 teams bowl eligible with 1, maybe 2 teams in the BCS.
Big East currently has 4 teams bowl eligible with 1 BCS team. (2 teams are sitting at 5-6)

**huntt26** · 11-24-2012, 05:41 PM

Found this on Wikipedia

When Beef O'Brady's became the sponsor in 2009, the official name was changed to the St. Petersburg Bowl Presented by Beef 'O' Brady's. The bowl game features teams from the Big East Conference and Conference USA, unless one of the conferences does not have enough bowl eligible teams, in which case the MAC or Sun Belt Conference are eligible to send a team.

**alarson** · 11-24-2012, 05:41 PM

That 'top 16 rule' is dumb. Top 10 maybe id understand.... and it shouldnt be a separate rule for ND, just include them in that group.

**FDWxMan** · 11-24-2012, 05:43 PM

Michigan is only one spot above Boise in the Harris poll, they are dropping. Only +2 in the coaches poll, doubt they are going to not fall in either voter poll, that's silly.

**alarson** · 11-24-2012, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by FDWxMan

Michigan is only one spot above Boise in the Harris poll, they are dropping. Only +2 in the coaches poll, doubt they are going to not fall in either voter poll, that's silly.

Showing why the voter polls are, in fact, silly. A close loss to a team ranked well above you shouldnt drop you.

**FDWxMan** · 11-24-2012, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by alarson

That 'top 16 rule' is dumb. Top 10 maybe id understand.... and it shouldnt be a separate rule for ND, just include them in that group.

Does seem rather generous. Still a chance that maybe Oregon State won't fall far enough to get passed, but the two non-AQs will play next week and could end up getting voted in -- or out -- essentially.

**Rogue52** · 11-24-2012, 05:45 PM

Time to start hoping someone ahead of Pinstripe picks WVU and New Era thinks we will travel better than any of the Texas schools. Hard to see any of the Texas bowls picking us over them (which is dumb), so then we may be relegated to Pizza Bowl.

**CyFan61** · 11-24-2012, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by FDWxMan

Virtually impossible for Big XII to get 2 BCS barring an upset of Kent or Boise.

They'd have to be in the Top 16 of the BCS to make it if they are ahead of the Big East champ, or Top 12 if they aren't - unless I'm reading the rules wrong.

With two in the BCS, I think it is pretty close to certain that we go to Heart of Dallas Bowl. Meineke Car Care will want Baylor and Pinstripe will want West Virginia.

With one in the BCS, probably more likely that we are the at-large selection from the Big 12. There are so many bowls that won't get filled, but have so many alternates listed, that it's really tough to figure out which ones might end up with Iowa State.

There are a couple of bowls that look especially possible because multiple options of theirs won't be filled:

Military Bowl in Washington, D.C.
Independence Bowl in Shreveport, LA

Out of those two, you know I'd want to play in the Military Bowl. It would be against the fifth choice from C-USA, which is likely to be Rice if they beat UTEP to get to 6-6.

6-6 Iowa State vs. 6-6 Rice in the Military Bowl... what an intriguing matchup