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11-25-2012, 02:35 PM #136
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 Originally Posted by cyman05 Music City will definitely be an option for an at-large team.
As long as Georgia Tech loses to FSU, they won't be bowl eligible. There was a new rule passed THIS August that said 6-7 teams will only get a bowl waiver if no 6-6 teams are available. There are currently 70 teams for 70 spots that are 6-6 or will be 6-6. Pitt and UConn have a chance to make that 71 or 72.
Miami, N Carolina, and Georgia Tech (assuming a loss) will all be ineligible. That means only 5 ACC teams will make it to a bowl. Thus the Music City bowl will be open...
Whether ISU falls to an at large team or not is yet to be seen but Music City will be open. Can you point me towards that rule? I just looked at some GT stuff and no one seemed concerned about missing a bowl even at 6-7.
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11-25-2012, 02:37 PM #137
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Didn't UCLA go last year at 6-7? It seems really crappy that a team could be made bowl ineligible by a conference championship game.
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11-25-2012, 02:39 PM #138
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 Originally Posted by Judoka Didn't UCLA go last year at 6-7? It seems really crappy that a team could be made bowl ineligible by a conference championship game. They petitioned to play in a bowl game and lost to Illinois.
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11-25-2012, 03:43 PM #139
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 Originally Posted by CyFan61 Can you point me towards that rule? I just looked at some GT stuff and no one seemed concerned about missing a bowl even at 6-7. Here are the new rules to fill bowls if there are not enough teams: NCAA.org
Georgia Tech would be in "pool 3". Given that their situation is spelled out in these new rules, I don't think the NCAA would circumvent it to grant some kind of special waiver.
Here is the Georgia Tech fan discussion of the issue: It's Orange Bowl or nothing - Stingtalk.com - Georgia Tech Sports Message Board -
11-25-2012, 03:59 PM #140
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 Originally Posted by Cylone999 Very interesting, thank you for providing this. Looks like Music City would still be open and would be by far most attractive at large bowl - if GT loses to FSU. If someone from the Big 12 gets left out, sure looks like they'd be heading to Nashville. I bet it would be against Vanderbilt. That would be a good game if it was Iowa State playing them.
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11-25-2012, 04:11 PM #141
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Anything sounds better than Detroit or Shreveport. We really blew it by losing against WVU. Hope for the best!
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11-25-2012, 04:11 PM #142
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This is what the Atlanta Journal Constitution is saying about Georgia Tech's eligiblity: Hopefully you aren’t so versed on NCAA rules that you were aware of this, but in August the NCAA approved a new process for addressing situations in which there aren’t enough bowl eligible teams to fill the 35 bowls. (Link to useful story here) The NCAA created an order by which ineligible teams could be approved, starting with 6-6 teams with a win over an FCS team. Second is 6-6 teams with two FCS wins.The third group in the list is teams that were 6-7 with a loss in the conference championship, which could conceivably include Tech. As is often the case with NCAA legislation, there is some confusion over how this actually could apply to Tech. I should point out that the waiver petition that Tech would file next week if it lost to Georgia is a separate matter from the process created in August. UCLA filed a similar waiver last year when it went into the Pac-12 title game at 6-6. Conceivably, Tech could file a waiver if it had gone 0-12 if it wanted to. However, this new protocol may affect the potential waiver, since there is now a rule that addresses how deserving a 6-7 team is in comparison with other teams that aren’t bowl eligible. “There’s really no way to predict whether or not that would be viewed differently since we now have this protocol that we didn’t have last year that teams that aren’t eligible,” an NCAA spokesman told me Monday. That said, as noted above, Tech, ACC and bowl officials were confident that the Jackets could get a waiver if necessary, as they could claim precedent with UCLA. There is the thought that once a team becomes eligible, it can’t become ineligible. Said Stokan, “I don’t think Tech would have a problem.” Updated Tech bowl scenarios | Georgia Tech -
11-25-2012, 04:30 PM #143
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Well if we end up playing Purdue in a bowl game we will be doing it without their Head Coach as they just fired Danny Hope.
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11-25-2012, 04:30 PM #144
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 Originally Posted by Wesley Chizik is available and coached there before. He can recruit and he has run out of fishing buddies to hire.  Originally Posted by justcynn I find it highly unlikely Texas would take Rhoads at this point in his career, not that I don't think he is of that caliber, but it would take some stones for a blue blood school to give him a chance based on his record and experience. Hope you are right. I agree with every other blue blood but texas fans have seen the rhoads progress and know ISU and how hard it is. Plus the big knock on Brown is his lack of passion ability to motivate players, the anti-rhoads so to speak. On Murph and !ndy last week they also expressed this sentament that rhoads would only go to a blue blood (not a tennesee or arkansas) and no major or blue blood would want him with the exception of Texas and we should be worried about them citing texas reporters commenting how texas would love rhoads as there next coach to very roughly paraphrase. People tend to hire to there previous coaches deficiencies, so makes sense as much as I hate to say it, hence i am rooting for Texas. Losing to WVU certainly made Rhoads less attractive if there is a silver lining there...
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11-25-2012, 04:30 PM #145
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If GA Tech loses to FSU they will Not be bowl eligible. Jerry Palm @jppalmCBS Rice now eligible. That makes 70. Sorry Georgia Tech. That means BCS or nothing. Jerry Palm @jppalmCBS
did away with those this year. RT @GilbertSays: can't they petition for a waiver like UCLA last year? Jerry Palm @jppalmCBS @WesDurham In fact, part of the motivation for the new standards (http://tinyurl.com/cm2d58j ) was the embarrassment UCLA caused last year. Jerry Palm @jppalmCBS
Didn't mean to blame UCLA specifically...just their situation was embarrassing. UCLA just took advantage of the rule.
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11-25-2012, 04:31 PM #146
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Here is how bowl teams are selected...new rules put in place for this year...6-7 will not be eligible unless there aren't enough 6-6 teams. Gotta fill the bowls - CBSSports -
11-25-2012, 04:42 PM #147
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Great news for Iowa State. Probably looking like either Dallas (with 2 Big 12 teams in the BCS) or Nashville (with 1) for the Cyclones now. Music City prestige and payout is much higher than any other at-large bowl, and we would certainly be the most attractive option to fill in.
Good to see Purdue letting their coach go, although we have some experience with that going poorly (see: Colorado 2010)
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11-25-2012, 04:46 PM #148
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 Originally Posted by CyFan61 Great news for Iowa State. Probably looking like either Dallas (with 2 Big 12 teams in the BCS) or Nashville (with 1) for the Cyclones now. Music City prestige and payout is much higher than any other at-large bowl, and we would certainly be the most attractive option to fill in. I would definitely go to Nashville. Dallas? No.
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11-25-2012, 04:46 PM #149
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 Originally Posted by CyFan61 Great news for Iowa State. Looking like either Dallas (with 2 Big 12 teams in the BCS) or Nashville (with 1) for the Cyclones now. Music City prestige and payout is much higher than any other at-large bowl, and we would certainly be the most attractive option to fill in. Exactly...I bet there is a 90% chance its Dallas or Nashville. Outside chance at Houston bowl...can't see Pinstripe taking us 2 years in a row...outside chance something else pops on the radar, but it's almost gotta be Dallas or Nashville.
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11-25-2012, 04:52 PM #150
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 Originally Posted by LutherBlue I would definitely go to Nashville. Dallas? No. I think both would be solid bowls in their own way. Both are better than New York again, or - God help us - Shreveport. I'll be happy to see the Cyclones bowling either way!
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