23 commits by my count so far

**Aclone** · 11-25-2012, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY

From my vantage point, I would not understand that move. I really hope he stays, he has the chance to be an impact player.

I know that some people like him as a corner, I just thought he might prove to be an awesome successor to Jacques Washington. Either way, I hope he stays.

**A-town Cy** · 11-25-2012, 09:24 PM

Look around Charlie, all the freshmen redshirted

**demoncore1031** · 11-25-2012, 10:09 PM

anyone know if pavlenko is gonna play somewhere else? as far as remaining schollys, i would like campos and a LB or 2

**ripvdub** · 11-25-2012, 10:24 PM

Exactly, should be plenty of pt at the corner position next year. IMO, we have Jansen Watson and that's about it.

Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY

From my vantage point, I would not understand that move. I really hope he stays, he has the chance to be an impact player.

**Tre4ISU** · 11-25-2012, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by ripvdub

Exactly, should be plenty of pt at the corner position next year. IMO, we have Jansen Watson and that's about it.

Lynn/Stokes/Richardson/Lawry...we will have plenty of people out there.

**Rhoadhoused** · 11-25-2012, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by Tre4ISU

Lynn/Stokes/Richardson/Lawry...we will have plenty of people out there.

Yeah we are fine at corner. Hopefully Stokes gets better or gets jumped by someone though because I'm not sure we will do so hot with him as our #2 for a full year.

**simply1** · 11-25-2012, 11:01 PM

How about we wait for real info before lambasting Charlie.

**swarthmoreCY** · 11-25-2012, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by simply1

How about we wait for real info before lambasting Charlie.

Almost all have expressed their hopes that it is not true because he is going to be a great player. Saying you do not understand why he would leave now is not a dig at Charlie.

**Doc** · 11-25-2012, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY

From my vantage point, I would not understand that move. I really hope he stays, he has the chance to be an impact player.

He can go to JUCO and then play 3 years somewhere. That's far from a bad move considering he'd had to fight for PT next year. If he doesn't like it at ISU, he may as well make the move. He's a young kid. We have another RS stud in Lawry, who has probably been dwarfed by a single comment about Rogers being a potential NFL guy.

I think he's just sick of Daley burning him.

**swarthmoreCY** · 11-25-2012, 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by Doc

He can go to JUCO and then play 3 years somewhere. That's far from a bad move considering he'd had to fight for PT next year.

That was not the discussion. The reason given earlier in the thread was he did not like the coaches redshirt policy. If that is true, what does leaving after the redshirt do besides be an attempt at retribution or a retaliation for being redshirted.

I think he will/would see a lot of PT next year- not much of a fight.

**simply1** · 11-27-2012, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY

Almost all have expressed their hopes that it is not true because he is going to be a great player. Saying you do not understand why he would leave now is not a dig at Charlie.

If astericks have to be included with his name, then the post should not be made. There is no reason at all to question whether he is all in, is a stupid ******, etc, imo. How you say it with Charlie's name most certainly comes across as a premature dig.

We don't know that he's not all in. We don't know that he's ****** about redshirting. Speculating that he is and how stupid it would be is crap.

**Wesley** · 11-27-2012, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by ISUAlum2002

What's the total amount of offers from other BCS schools for those 23 commits? Just curious.

14.

**swarthmoreCY** · 11-27-2012, 01:46 AM

Originally Posted by simply1

If astericks have to be included with his name, then the post should not be made. There is no reason at all to question whether he is all in, is a stupid ******, etc, imo. How you say it with Charlie's name most certainly comes across as a premature dig.

We don't know that he's not all in. We don't know that he's ****** about redshirting. Speculating that he is and how stupid it would be is crap.

Like I said, almost all have not done this. You can quote the post(s) that offended you, it is not too hard.

**khardbored** · 11-27-2012, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by CYphyllis

Your count is wrong.

Glenn is a greyshirt, so that brings it back to 22. Some of these guys will early enroll and count towards the 2012 class which had the Pavlenko defection and I'm sure some more attrition before too long.

Maybe a dumb question -- what is a greyshirt?

**Bobber** · 11-27-2012, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY

That was not the discussion. The reason given earlier in the thread was he did not like the coaches redshirt policy. If that is true, what does leaving after the redshirt do besides be an attempt at retribution or a retaliation for being redshirted.

I think he will/would see a lot of PT next year- not much of a fight.

If we lose a guy or two due to the Red Shirt policy, I'm fine with that. It's a great policy long term that I think will ultimately help the team.