Bowl game projection - What if Kansas wins?

[JayV]

I've read most of the bowl game discussion and all the projections I can find. All make the (very safe) assumption that West Virginia wins against Kansas. But what if that doesn't happen? Are we back in the running for the Holiday Bowl? Or did we need that 7th win regardless of what happens in West Virginia this weekend?

[isuno1fan]

NO...really won't matter. WVU to NYC for sure then. Holiday probably take TCU.

[awd4cy]

This would happen if Kansas wins.

[chuckd4735]

If that happens, and OU and KSU win, here is what I would predict.

If the Big 12 gets 2 BCS:
Fiesta: KSU
Sugar: OU
Cotton: UT
Alamo: OSU
BWW: TT
Holiday: TCU
Meineke: BU
Pinstripe: WV
HOD: ISU

If the Big 12 only gets 1 BCS:
Fiesta: KSU
Cotton: OU
Alamo: UT
BWW: OSU
Holiday: TT
Meineke: TCU
Pinstripe: WV
HOD: BU
At-large: ISU

[InCytful]

If Kansas wins, I'll know the Mayan 2012 end of the world predictions are true.

Seriously, though, ISU is likely either Music City or that Dallas bowl, regardless of rest of the games.

[alarson]

I think that makes them a stone cold lock for pinstripe.

And i wouldnt be surprised by a KU win. They have a strange 'down week, up week, down week, up week' pattern. Each up week has gotten progressively closer to a win. If the pattern holds, either this goes to 3OT or KU wins. KU has shown flashes of ability. And WVU is a team that's shown its very beatable

[WastedTalent]

I think that makes them a stone cold lock for pinstripe.

And i wouldnt be surprised by a KU win. They have a strange 'down week, up week, down week, up week' pattern. Each up week has gotten progressively closer to a win. If the pattern holds, either this goes to 3OT or KU wins. KU has shown flashes of ability. And WVU is a team that's shown its very beatable

Well KU is a 20 point dog, so you better be finding your local bookie. At this point in their season, and on the road it would take some big ones to pick Kansas.

[cyfan12343]

Kansas wins close.

[cyclones500]

I've read most of the bowl game discussion and all the projections I can find. All make the (very safe) assumption that West Virginia wins against Kansas. But what if that doesn't happen? Are we back in the running for the Holiday Bowl? Or did we need that 7th win regardless of what happens in West Virginia this weekend?

KU winning seems unlikely, but it'd be perfectly in line with this year's Big 12.

[IHavNoCyCash]

doubt it does much at all...would be surprised that WVU goes to the Holiday Bowl...just doesn't make sense for TCU or Tech not to be picked there if they are available.

[DarkStar]

Here are some numbers that the Bowl comitties will be looking at when comparing teams.

This table is sorted by % Capacity.

Team	Capacity	Games	Toal	High	Average	%
Oklahoma	82,112	6	511,460	86,031	85,243	103.81%
TCU	45,000	5	228,780	47,894	45,756	101.68%
Texas	100,119	6	605,304	101,851	100,884	100.76%
Iowa State	55,000	7	386,917	56,800	55,273	100.50%
K-State	50,000	6	301,031	50,781	50,171	100.34%
Texas Tech	60,454	6	343,251	60,879	57,208	94.63%
WVU	60,000	6	340,297	60,101	56,716	94.53%
OSU	60,218	7	395,895	57,799	56,556	93.92%
Baylor	50,000	5	207,962	44,856	41,592	83.18%
Kansas	50,071	6	247,971	46,601	41,328	82.54%

Add the fact ISU has doubled its number of season tickets sold in the last 5 years and JP has some good numbers to work with when pitching us to a bowl game.

[iowa_wildcat]

Your chart is also very very deceptive. TCU sells tickets but any shot of the stadium will show lots of empty seats. Additionally, some fan bases travel well, others tend to stay home by the fire and watch games on TV.

[F5cy]

The way I'm reading dark star's table, if we finish the SEZ and end with a capacity of just over 60,000, that puts us behind only Texas and Oklahoma in the statistical category of stadium capacity. Talk about sleeping giant possibilities! Especially if we can continue to sell out the stadium.

[istater7]

Really hoping for the Meinke Bowl..And I could see them taking ISU over Baylor

[swarthmoreCY]

The way I'm reading dark star's table, if we finish the SEZ and end with a capacity of just over 60,000, that puts us behind only Texas and Oklahoma in the statistical category of stadium capacity. Talk about sleeping giant possibilities! Especially if we can continue to sell out the stadium.

If we can just get an 8 or 9 win season(s) in the next few years, we could easily have the type of momentum to climb out of the hole left from the many previous decades of indifference. Imo the growth we are currently seeing is from the "powers that be" slowly committing to athletics so that ISU can finally capitalize on being a large state university. We are still capable of much more- the type of momentum in ISU passion that comes with substantial sustained success.
If ISU had a run like KSU under Synder in the past 10 years, imo we would be talking about filling up a 65-70k stadium.