Future of Liberty Bowl (Big 12 bowls in general)

**CyFan61** · 12-03-2012, 03:30 PM

I think a great target for the Big 12 is the Russell Athletics Bowl. We have a history with it (when it was the Champs Sports Bowl). It's in Orlando and the payout would put it at #5 in the Big 12 listings as they stand now, ahead of the Holiday Bowl.

It is currently Big East vs. ACC. If they can drop the Big East they absolutely should. Big 12 should swoop in!

**theshadow** · 12-03-2012, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by CyFan61

We have a history with it (when it was the Champs Sports Bowl).

One four-year deal, in which the Big 12 only sent a team three times.

**Angie** · 12-03-2012, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by ISUFB

Rebecacy... that you?

Yes.

**alarson** · 12-03-2012, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by copper

I sure hope the Big XII does not lose the PinStripe Bowl. Best trip ever!!!!!

rebecacy?

**alarson** · 12-03-2012, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by Angie

Yes.

Damn, beat me to it. He really is easy to spot now.

**Angie** · 12-03-2012, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by alarson

Damn, beat me to it. He really is easy to spot now.

You have a great eye.

**MeanDean** · 12-03-2012, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by MNCyGuy

I get that it would be nice for Florida kids to play in a bowl close to their family, but would one low-level Florida bowl really make a difference? Are the top Big 12 schools going to start raking in Louisiana recruits because we're going to be attached to the Sugar Bowl now? I mean, out of 8 bowls, even if ISU was bowl elibible every year, what would be the odds of that kid ever even playing in that game. IMO, you'd need around 3 of our bowls to be in Florida to legitimately make that pitch. I just don't see that happening because the Big 12 will always skew Texas-heavy on their bowl sites. Maybe if we ditched our west coast bowls and concentrated on adding Florida games, but since the Big Ten has good long-standing relationships with the best games, I think that's a foolish notion.

But we're already cultivating a pipeline (mixed metaphor, I know) with Florida kids. Louisiana recruits is a straw man. The Sugar Bowl was attractive to Big XII front office because it's close to Texas. The SEC liked it because it's their historic bowl just like the Orange Bowl was for the Big 8. But Texas schools weren't in the Big 8 so it doesn't matter to them. For me it comes down to always knowing that for every Texas bowl ISU will always be the 2nd choice if there's a Texas school in the mix to choose over us.

**ISUFB** · 12-03-2012, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by alarson

rebecacy?

Originally Posted by alarson

Damn, beat me to it. He really is easy to spot now.

Originally Posted by Angie

You have a great eye.

Hey now... let's not all forget who spotted him first! now.. where's my cookie! Chocolate chip would be preferred.

**Angie** · 12-03-2012, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by ISUFB

Hey now... let's not all forget who spotted him first! now.. where's my cookie! Chocolate chip would be preferred.

With extra big chips:

**CyFan61** · 12-03-2012, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by theshadow

One four-year deal, in which the Big 12 only sent a team three times.

Yes...

**hurdleisu24** · 12-03-2012, 06:39 PM

Be interesting with the drop in ranking and with conferences expansion if the Holiday bowl stays with the B12 I really hope it does but you have to wonder.

**theshadow** · 12-03-2012, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by hurdleisu24

Be interesting with the drop in ranking and with conferences expansion if the Holiday bowl stays with the B12 I really hope it does but you have to wonder.

Unlike the Tangerine/Champs Sports/Russell Athletic, the Holiday actually does have a history with the Big 12. Every year since 1995 (the last year of the Big Eight).

**CyFan61** · 12-04-2012, 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by theshadow

Unlike the Tangerine/Champs Sports/Russell Athletic, the Holiday actually does have a history with the Big 12. Every year since 1995 (the last year of the Big Eight).

*Has more of a history

I like having a California bowl. Can't have all Texas bowls in our lineup.

We need to ditch the Pinstripe Bowl and let the Big Ten take it over now that New York is B1G Country. Wouldn't surprise me if that one switches to Big Ten-ACC or maybe down to the Big East's champion's bowl vs. Big Ten.

Sugar, Cotton, Alamo, Buffalo Wild Wings, Russell Athletic, Holiday, Meineke Car Care, Liberty. Would be interesting to see if payouts adjust the order. Regardless, that would be a solid lineup:

1 in Louisiana
1 in Arizona
1 in Florida
1 in California
1 in Tennessee
3 in Texas

Also, as of now (although this would change):

1 vs. ACC
2 vs. Big Ten
2 vs. Pac-12
3 vs. SEC