Would you rather....

**NATEizKING** · 12-05-2012, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by Rabbuk

You know who said that?

CycloneErik?

**Rabbuk** · 12-05-2012, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by NATEizKING

CycloneErik?

He took the quote out of my sig

or weird coincidence.

**MIClone** · 12-05-2012, 08:58 PM

I can't play this. Both are important, and they are even inter-related. If we lose the bowl game, we're more likely to lose to Tulsa next year due to a lack of confidence.

**Rhoadhoused** · 12-05-2012, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by MIClone

I can't play this. Both are important, and they are even inter-related. If we lose the bowl game, we're more likely to lose to Tulsa next year due to a lack of confidence.

Don't think that is an issue at all. We play the same 10 teams every single year. Confidence vs a team is such an incredibly small factor that it shouldn't even register on any kind of scale measuring things that effect the game. This is freaking Tulsa, not Oklahoma.

**Doc** · 12-05-2012, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by MIClone

I can't play this. Both are important, and they are even inter-related. If we lose the bowl game, we're more likely to lose to Tulsa next year due to a lack of confidence.

Yeah, and I'm not marrying Sam Steele because we can't decide on 3 or 4 children.

**Farnsworth** · 12-05-2012, 10:00 PM

Bowl game, we need that. We can rebound from a lost next year, unless some think we will run the table which is unlikely.

**Rhoadhoused** · 12-05-2012, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by Farnsworth

Bowl game, we need that. We can rebound from a lost next year, unless some think we will run the table which is unlikely.

What is your logic on that? What do we gain going 7-6 vs 6-7? What if next year we have the chance to go 8-4 as opposed to 7-5 in the regular season? That would open up a shot at a 9 win season.

I think there is a much bigger difference between 8/9 wins than there is 7/6 wins.

For me, the biggest thing about bowl games that aren't prestigious or nationally relevant is that we get extra practices to get better to get to one that is prestigious or nationally relevant.

EDIT: This would be a good topic to write about for CW while filling the time till the bowl.

**Farnsworth** · 12-05-2012, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by Rhoadhoused

What is your logic on that? What do we gain going 7-6 vs 6-7? What if next year we have the chance to go 8-4 as opposed to 7-5 in the regular season? That would open up a shot at a 9 win season.

I think there is a much bigger difference between 8/9 wins than there is 7/6 wins.

For me, the biggest thing about bowl games that aren't prestigious or nationally relevant is that we get extra practices to get better to get to one that is prestigious or nationally relevant.

EDIT: This would be a good topic to write about for CW while filling the time till the bowl.

Well, from a national media prospective, they look at "bowl records" a lot when it comes to post season play. This does not factor in who/when/where we play at all. Next year if we went 8-4, or 7-5 because of this scenerio, will hurt us very marginally, as the extra wins in conference will mean more than the loss to tulsa on the road (them coming off a conference championship, and a bowl win).

**Rhoadhoused** · 12-05-2012, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by Farnsworth

Well, from a national media prospective, they look at "bowl records" a lot when it comes to post season play. This does not factor in who/when/where we play at all. Next year if we went 8-4, or 7-5 because of this scenerio, will hurt us very marginally, as the extra wins in conference will mean more than the loss to tulsa on the road (them coming off a conference championship, and a bowl win).

I guess I just don't think that is a big deal at all. 7-6 has been done plenty of times at ISU. I want the chance to do more than that. I want to take the next step. That's why I would take the win next year.

Although obviously this is all hypothetical and we have more than a fair chance at beating them both this year and next year.

**Doc** · 12-05-2012, 11:09 PM

Bowl games at 6-6 are just not a big deal at all. A better chance at a 7-5 or 8-4 season and a better bowl is worth so, so, so much more.

**Erik4Cy** · 12-05-2012, 11:10 PM

If we can't beat Tulsa 3 times in a 12 month period...our program is not where it needs to be. WIN THEM ALL!!

**Rural** · 12-06-2012, 07:23 AM

After the dust settles a bowl game is nothing more than a add-on exhibition (unless of course you happen to play in one of the top half dozen).

The regular season game has real weight considering it'd be an early season loss to a perceived lesser team.

**Rogue52** · 12-06-2012, 08:11 AM

If we lost either, I would view that as a major disappointment, but we need to be 3-0 against sub-par non-conference competition consistently moving forward.

Sorry Hawkeyes...

**cycloneworld** · 12-06-2012, 08:13 AM

If I had to pick one, it would be next season and it isn't even close. Bowl wins are nice but at the level of bowl game we've been going to, they really mean nothing except for maybe some momentum going into next year. But if we lose to Tulsa in 2013 that momentum will be gone. Just like all non-con games, the Tulsa game will be an important one to get to 6+ wins next year.