Steroids in college football - ISU mention

**SpokaneCY** · 12-20-2012, 01:28 PM

Linked article has some quotes from Lamaak about weight gains and steroid use. Article makes case that steroid use way more prevalent than reported...

Steroids loom in major-college football, report says - ESPN

**PabloDiablo** · 12-20-2012, 02:10 PM

A little nit-picky here but they mention he gained 81 lbs in one year when really they were talking about high school to his sophomore year. I'm sure they just condensed for dramatic effect but get the facts right if you're going to imply what they are implying.

**besserheimerphat** · 12-20-2012, 02:26 PM

They also said Lamaak gained a lot of "non-lean" weight, which is why his weight gain didn't get him flagged for testing.

**isufbcurt** · 12-20-2012, 02:32 PM

I didn't know if anyone doing steroids when I was playing, but I used creatine and I swear by that stuff. No way I could have gained the lean muscle mass I did without creatine.

**Judoka** · 12-20-2012, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by isufbcurt

I didn't know if anyone doing steroids when I was playing, but I used creatine and I swear by that stuff. No way I could have gained the lean muscle mass I did without creatine.

Creatine isn't a banned steroid though. Schools aren't allowed to provide it directly to players but it is 100% legal.

**SpokaneCY** · 12-20-2012, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by isufbcurt

I didn't know if anyone doing steroids when I was playing, but I used creatine and I swear by that stuff. No way I could have gained the lean muscle mass I did without creatine.

While not a football player, when I was lifting there was nothing better than the creatine pump!

**nhclone** · 12-20-2012, 03:06 PM

Lamaak was listed at 265 in his Rivals profile. Remembering his highlight tapes, that is much more believeable than him being 225.

**CY88CE11** · 12-20-2012, 03:12 PM

What a ridiculous article.

"Yet the NCAA has never studied weight gain or considered it in regard to its steroid testing policies, said Mary Wilfert, the NCAA's associate director of health and safety. She would not speculate on the cause of such rapid weight gain."

Yeah, they're 18-22 year old kids. Of course their bodies are still developing. Couple that with being in a D-1 weight room with a professional trainer year-round and you're going to see some people gain weight. Hell, receivers gain a lot of weight from when they walk onto campus to their second year.

**Cyclonetrombone** · 12-20-2012, 03:12 PM

They aren't accusing Lamaak of using... thread title is slightly misleading.

**isufbcurt** · 12-20-2012, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by Judoka

Creatine isn't a banned steroid though. Schools aren't allowed to provide it directly to players but it is 100% legal.

I know that was my point. You can take other legal supplements and put on good weight, just because someone puts on a lot of good weight doesn't mean steroids were involved.

**Karsten21** · 12-20-2012, 04:20 PM

steriods go hand in hand with paying players. everybody is doing it, and if your not, well you're probably not winning!!

**Guetterdone1** · 12-20-2012, 04:24 PM

They said that kids are gaining 20 to 30 pounds. Cripes non athletes gain 15 pounds. It's called the fresmen 15.

**PabloDiablo** · 12-20-2012, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by Cyclonetrombone

They aren't accusing Lamaak of using... thread title is slightly misleading.

By bringing up the questions they are putting doubt into everyone's mind about the whole topic. The author seems to have an axe to grind for some reason. Ben was legit to all of us but the layout of the article to me paints him in a negative light. Sure he is rebuking the whole weight gain topic but they mislead with wrong information and plant the seed of doubt.

Originally Posted by Karsten21

steriods go hand in hand with paying players. everybody is doing it, and if your not, well you're probably not winning!!

That is dumb. Try a jimlad, rookie.

**WooClone15** · 12-20-2012, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by Karsten21

steriods go hand in hand with paying players. everybody is doing it, and if your not, well you're probably not winning!!

Obviously, if you aint cheating, you aint trying

(for pabloDiablo)

**Tedcyclone** · 12-20-2012, 05:57 PM

HGH is more of an issue... Healthier, but making NFL players play forever and heals them quickly... add the roids making them bigger and faster is far more of an issue with injuries then kick offs!

My fix for NFL injuries is make weight limits at each position... Game stays the same, players are healthier, and less likely to kill someone.