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    Re: ***OFFICIAL FIRE MESSINGHAM THREAD***

    Quote Originally Posted by tyler24 View Post
    Was I the only one that liked McFarland when he was on staff here?
    Nope, I'm with you - I thought we should have kept McFarland as at least the o-line coach. He was a decent OC, better than we've had since, but not great. Remember all the delay of game penalties (including one after a timeout in Kinnick)?
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    Re: ***OFFICIAL FIRE MESSINGHAM THREAD***

    Let's reload coordinators with the Iowa western community college staff. Something is going very righ over there.

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    Re: ***OFFICIAL FIRE MESSINGHAM THREAD***

    I'm concerned with our approach with our quarterbacks. It seems like all 3 guys (JB, SJ, SR) have followed the same progression of playing great for a few games, making a few mistakes, and having the wheels fall off after the few mistakes. This rotating door at quarterback has got to stop. Figure out which guy gives us the best chance to win and stick with him barring injury. It's getting real old having a new QB step in as a "shot in the arm" for a game or two, but then falling prey to the same fate as the preceding QB.

    Also, the Oline is terrible.
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    Re: ***OFFICIAL FIRE MESSINGHAM THREAD***

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonefan32 View Post
    I'm concerned with our approach with our quarterbacks. It seems like all 3 guys (JB, SJ, SR) have followed the same progression of playing great for a few games, making a few mistakes, and having the wheels fall off after the few mistakes. This rotating door at quarterback has got to stop. Figure out which guy gives us the best chance to win and stick with him barring injury. It's getting real old having a new QB step in as a "shot in the arm" for a game or two, but then falling prey to the same fate as the preceding QB.

    Also, the Oline is terrible.
    Yeah, Rhoads is too quick at yanking QBs IMO. Bret Meyer agrees it seems. I hope Mess hasn't ruined Sam Richardson's career already? We shall see. He ruined Steele and JB pretty quickly.

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    Re: ***OFFICIAL FIRE MESSINGHAM THREAD***

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonefan32 View Post
    This rotating door at quarterback has got to stop. Figure out which guy gives us the best chance to win and stick with him barring injury.
    If you do not have a complete QB, it is likely the guy that gives us the best chance to win is not the same for every opponent.

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    Re: ***OFFICIAL FIRE MESSINGHAM THREAD***

    Quote Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY View Post
    If you do not have a complete QB, it is likely the guy that gives us the best chance to win is not the same for every opponent.
    Be careful. I don't think there's supposed to be any common sense here for at least another 24 hours...




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    Re: ***OFFICIAL FIRE MESSINGHAM THREAD***

    Quote Originally Posted by clonedude View Post
    Yeah, Rhoads is too quick at yanking QBs IMO. Bret Meyer agrees it seems. I hope Mess hasn't ruined Sam Richardson's career already? We shall see. He ruined Steele and JB pretty quickly.
    You can't ruin something that never was. Richardson never "was" and neither were the other two.
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    Re: ***OFFICIAL FIRE MESSINGHAM THREAD***

    A lot of you are talking about how Rhoads and Mess need to sit down this off season and talk through how to make the changes necessary to fix this. What do you think they are going to do this whole off season? Of course that will happen. Keep in mind too that you might not notice all the changes they implement. For an offense to be effective changes don't necessarily have to be in terms of a whole scheme, but possibly smaller changes that the average person won't see.

    I too don't understand every decision that has been made offensively this season. A lot of options are out there for Rhoads and based on what he has done so far at ISU, I believe he will make a decision that is for the best.
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    Re: ***OFFICIAL FIRE MESSINGHAM THREAD***

    Quote Originally Posted by Tre4ISU View Post
    You can't ruin something that never was. Richardson never "was" and neither were the other two.

    Remind me what a freshman qb who started late in the season was expected to do with a offense that was anemic in all aspects all season? I think he's done pretty well considering.
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    Re: ***OFFICIAL FIRE MESSINGHAM THREAD***

    We are Way beyond "small changes" when you average about 25pts a game, in a league that averages 40pts a game, were talking big changes. This offense needs a complete overhaul, anything less won't do.

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    Re: ***OFFICIAL FIRE MESSINGHAM THREAD***

    Quote Originally Posted by cyfanfrompella View Post
    We are Way beyond "small changes" when you average about 25pts a game, in a league that averages 40pts a game, were talking big changes. This offense needs a complete overhaul, anything less won't do.
    Sometimes small changes lead to big results.

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    Re: ***OFFICIAL FIRE MESSINGHAM THREAD***

    Quote Originally Posted by cyfanfrompella View Post
    We are Way beyond "small changes" when you average about 25pts a game, in a league that averages 40pts a game, were talking big changes. This offense needs a complete overhaul, anything less won't do.
    If we only average 28 points/gm but score TDs on 4/8 of our possessions we would be alright. We need a more efficient offense as much as we need to score 40 points per game.

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    Re: ***OFFICIAL FIRE MESSINGHAM THREAD***

    Quote Originally Posted by cyfanfrompella View Post
    We are Way beyond "small changes" when you average about 25pts a game, in a league that averages 40pts a game, were talking big changes. This offense needs a complete overhaul, anything less won't do.
    So yes, we should go out and sign twenty new offensive Juco players on Signing Day!

    Oh, wait...
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    Re: ***OFFICIAL FIRE MESSINGHAM THREAD***

    Quote Originally Posted by Luth4Cy View Post
    Sometimes small changes lead to big results.
    And the last 4 years of offense at ISU have shown that sometimes small changes don't change a thing at all.

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    Re: ***OFFICIAL FIRE MESSINGHAM THREAD***

    Quote Originally Posted by Aclone View Post
    So yes, we should go out and sign twenty new offensive Juco players on Signing Day!

    Oh, wait...
    What are you even talking about?
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