Re: ***OFFICIAL FIRE MESSINGHAM THREAD***
At Iowa State, we have traditionally been able to recruit good backs. I'd prefer to recruit bigger, more athletic backs. Theoretically, getting a big offensive line should be one of our strengths as well. I wouldn't mind going to either a Pistol or Wisconsin-type of offense. The Big 12's weakness is usually smaller defensive lines, so this type of offense could exploit that. It seems like our offensive line has a pretty decent size...they are just incredibly soft.
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Originally Posted by
TallKidIsTall
problem is the qb like usual
not coaching
Ah quarterback is a product of coaching
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dualthreat
Messingham and burnham and Rhoads have done a fine job all season.
Just completely false. The offense has been pretty pitiful all season.
Re: ***OFFICIAL FIRE MESSINGHAM THREAD***
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megamanxzero35
Huge mistake last year promoting him and not making an outside hire.
I have to admit in the 3rd quarter I was checking to see if Sonny D Y K E S had taken Tony Franklin with him to Cal.
He did...
Re: ***OFFICIAL FIRE MESSINGHAM THREAD***
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ThatllDoCy
1. Buy a lot of Pizza
2. Find Mangino
3. Bribe Mangino with Pizza to re-work on our Offensive scheme
4. Win!
Will somebody please get Great Plains on the phone?
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I really wonder what will happen here. PR isn't the type of guy to sit around and do nothing. I think he is a pretty thoughtful guy and able to look at things objectively. I think he has done that in the past. Lot of questions have to be answered here.
Guys, we had 3 first team All B12 defensive players and we couldn't put enough first downs together to keep them off the field for a blow. Granted Jake was hurt for a few games, there is a fundamental problem there.
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Even with our D not playing well our O should have easily been able to put up at least some points in three quarters against the worst (... um... second worst ..) bowl team playing this year.
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The problem is the scheme. Even Tulsa ran a bunch of plays from under center. Quick snap, quick handoff, O-line just blasts off the ball and gain some yards. Every freaking play we run is the same. QB right in the middle of the field, 3 seconds to decide what to do, and no gain.
We run no mis-direction, so the D is never out of position. All they have to do is stay where they are and wait. Watch all the best teams, they run one play that works so much and is so easy. Start under center. Play action fake to the tailback going one way. QB rolls out the other way, while the whole defense goes with the fake. The TE drags across the field, easy 8-10 yard completion. Or bunch the receivers, and run a bunch of crossing routes, confuse the defense. We just look like the easiest team in the world to defend.
If Mess wants to change the scheme, give him a chance. If not, get someone else.
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Man, lets hire the Tulsa OC. If that guy can make it work with Cody green, he can make it work here.
Greg Peterson Profile - Tulsa Official Athletic Site
Re: ***OFFICIAL FIRE MESSINGHAM THREAD***
The spread offense may still be the system for us. The spread helps the lower recruits teams (normally like us) match up with higher end recruiting teams. But a more physical run game helps cold weather teams. Also, it appears to me that our offensive line is the strength in our recruiting. Thus, I am torn - spread or smash mouth? Smash mouth is Iowa - boring and no success. We have a hell of a lot better speed recruits in Texas and Florida then they do. Let's go with the middle - pro style like under McCarney.
Re: ***OFFICIAL FIRE MESSINGHAM THREAD***
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UNIGuy4Cy
Ah quarterback is a product of coaching
It seems that the more 1st team reps the qbs get, the worse they get.
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Bobby45
Like I said before MESS is a MESS and always will be The Off Coordinator job is just too big for him its time to either demote him or get rid of him and for chrissakes HIRE a OFFENSIVE Coordinator that knows how to exploit a blitzing defense..
Rutgers. Now Tulsa. Need a better plan.
Re: ***OFFICIAL FIRE MESSINGHAM THREAD***
Our pass offense is horizontal, which is not good when you already lack playmakers. Our run game was susceptible to TFLs even when we had a powerful Oline (delayed, from the shotgun, and based on the QB correctly reading unblocked defenders). The play-calling after the first few series is rarely thinking more than one pay out. It was a mistake to go with this scheme in 2008. Choosing Mess to run it in 2012 was an even worse decision. What does CPR have to go on to think this offense and Mess will make the improvement needed?
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tim_redd
Will somebody please get Great Plains on the phone?
Who could resist this? Don't forget the honey bear.
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...6-ZCzRU_jThvCQ
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He needs to go. Offense struggled all year. qb's are not developing, and defense left on field all day long all year.