For sure. I'm not giving up on Rhoads any time soon, I just have low expectations for the 2013 campaign. I think as long as he can keep the team playing together, and improving, it will be a successful year. I just think realistically our fans need to prepared for a rebuilding year on defense so they don't lose their **** next season. When you throw in our terrible offensive coaching staff, its not a recipe for a great year.
I always think it is interesting that we get a good coach that actually wants to be at "Big 12" power Iowa State and we get to a couple bowl games and a 500 season, then all of a sudden fans want someone better.
With this schedule and the being at Iowa State getting to 8-4 will be a major accomplishment. I think CPR will ocassionally get that done, but to think we are going to constantly be 8-4 and better is crazy.
I am happy we have a coach that wants to be here and has been able to put more excitement around Iowa State football than has been in MAYBE EVER.
I'm glad CPR wants to be at ISU. That doesn't excuse getting whipped on both sides of the ball by Tulsa. Especially 4 years into his tenure.
I will say this: There has to be a time when 6 wins isn't good enough. When that is, is the question. I think it was this year. You had some experience at QB, a first AC DT, two of the best linebackers in the nation, returned all but one of your secondary (which wasn't a deal until Watson was hurt). You had what we were told was a good, deep line and the best set of RBs we have had in recent years to go along with upgraded receivers. I won't compare this to year one because it isn't fair from a schedule standpoint. This, however is the first year we lost to more teams we should have beaten (TT, WVU) than beaten teams we should have lost to (TCU). Maybe the first three teams just overachieved. I think this one underachieved. I'm with Al. It will probably take some luck to get to a bowl next year and we should have seen that coming a year ago. Every tossup game is away. Now, I think we will get to a bowl. I think there are guys we haven't seen who will be good. I think in 2014, I will be asking for 8 wins. That's year 6. I think that's enough time to ask that. If we don't make a bowl next year, or worse, then there will be heat on CPR and there should be. I still have great faith in Rhoads but you can only sell hope for so long and I'm just not content making it to third rate bowls.
I can live with a .500 type winning percentage in football. That compares very well to our historical average.
I will never give up on Paul Rhoads.
But I think he has some very tough decisions to make.
If all the money spent on facilities improvements and coaching salaires isn't going to at least differentiate ISU from smaller schools like Tulsa, it would seem like a waste of resources.
So if size of school and athletic budgets determine who teams should never lose to then Texas should never lose to anyone. Heck Northwestern should never beat anyone in the Big Ten since they only have 8500 enrollment.
Fact is college football is more balanced and allows smaller schools to compete with bigger schools.
I am starting to lose faith in CPR ability to find a hire a good OC
UT's athletic budget (and enrollment for that matter) is about twice that of ISU. What's UT's winning % in FB against ISU? It's pretty close to "not losing"...
Northwestern's athletic budget is over $60,000,000, so they have adequate financial resources to compete in the Big Ten, and they are afforded the benefits of belonging to a major conference.
Are there any schools (within the realm of realistic scheduling) that ISU should have an expectation of beating?
This thread shows just how fickle college football fans are, including those at ISU, although most would deny that. There have been times that CF posters were panicked about Rhoads winning and getting called away by another school. Now we get a thread asking how soon we will lose faith in him.
The loss to Tulsa stunk....no doubt about that. It is extremely difficult to accept that a Paul Rhoad's coached team could play that poorly. It is also difficult to accept or even understand many of the coaching decisions that were made during that game. Perplexing I think is the best word to describe that game.
I think Paul Rhoads is still the perfect fit for ISU. I do not recall any coach that has had any more desire to win and build the ISU program than he does. McCarney was just as passionate, but not more passionate than Rhoads.
I have followed ISU football since the 70's. There were 2 previous times I thought ISU was on the brink of breaking through.....first under Majors, then again under Bruce. Back then, you did not have 70 teams going to bowl games (more like 20 or 30) so making a bowl was a pretty big deal. ISU was on the brink both times, but then both of those coaches left, for whatever reason. I will never forgive Lou McCullough for basically pushing Bruce to OSU after Woody Hayes got fired. Of course, both Bruce and McCullough had been assistant coaches for Hayes, but still......I thought McCullough betrayed ISU with that move. Majors' and Bruce's success had helped to get Jack Trice stadium built, and now both were gone.
I thought ISU had a chance again with McCarney. It took him until his 5th year to have any success, but then he had a pretty good streak going with only a couple of hiccups along the way. Everyone knows his last year should not have been such a poor record, but it was enough for JP to let him go so he could hire his own man. That didn't go so well at first, but I think JP learned something too and finally got us CPR.
I think everything is in place again, but to an even greater degree. To have nearly 25,000 fans travel 10 hours for a 6-6 team in a bowl against a team they had already beaten this season is significant. To have state-of-the-art trainingfacilities is significant. To be landing some top in-state recruits and a couple of JC All-Americans is significant. To have record attendance and record season ticket sales is significant. To be even talking about bowling in the south end zone is significant. For JP to have more than doubled the AD budget in his time here is significant. To be taking steps toward an "ISU Channel" and the development of Cyclones.tv is significant.
In the past, something always seemed to be missing. ISU didn't have the facilities, the budget, the recruting ability, blah, blah, blah. Now......the only thing that seems to be missing is building a coaching staff that can get consistent performance out of its players. Build an identity.
One thing I am certain of is that there is no one who feels worse about the bowl game loss than CPR. I hope, and believe he will recognize the problems and will make the necessary adjustments. Remember.......this is his first head-coaching gig........period. What other first-time head coaches do any of you think could have done the job CPR has done in 4 years at ISU?
I cannot think of anyone that would be better to have in place than CPR to figure this out and get ISU on the right track. It may take another 3 to 4 years. That's okay. Like many ISU fans, I've waited for over 40 years already. A few more is no problem, especially since we have never seen more promise, more energy, and more excitement in this program.