Grant Rohach

As we all know it starts up front, so until this problem gets resolved forget about QB's, recievers, RB's.

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Originally Posted by DhaCheann

Rohach would make plays for the scout team vs our #1 defense that made him look like a big12 ready QB, and he's got such a cannon, that he was the "backup punter" in punt return drills. Aka he would launch the ball 60+ yards simulating a punt

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That might come in handy on 4th and 1 plays.

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Originally Posted by 3TrueFans

Now I've only been around this board for 6 years or so, but from what I hear he's going to throw for 4,000 yards and be the #1 draft pick after his first season.

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I remember that thread. That was right before the accursed one came to town. Name seems different. He must of changed his name.

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Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY

Unfortunately in this offense that is way too simple of an assessment of our troubles. It also needs to be said "better start winning at the QB spot, or winning in the trenches will not matter".
In any offense poor QB play can waste the efforts of the OL in the passing game, but with relying on the zone-read as the foundation of our ground game, the success of our entire offense is on the QB.

It is quite troubling to know if our Oline next year was unexpectedly capable of moving the LOS (like they were the first 3 years of this offense), we would still struggle running. Or if the QB developed Aaron Rogers accuracy, he would still not have anyone open to throw to. And if we had great WR's, our horrible (and compressed) scheme would still allow the defense to defend the run and pass by blitzing the **** out of us.

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It's common for us to get owned up front - period. Scheme or personnel - it's still an issue with blocking and protection. Period.

We routinely lose in the trenches and that is a fact.

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Originally Posted by ISUFan22

It's common for us to get owned up front - period. Scheme or personnel - it's still an issue with blocking and protection. Period.

We routinely lose in the trenches and that is a fact.

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Blocking and protection being sufficient depends on much more than the OL in this offense. Period. As Bruns said prior to the KU game, this offense goes as the QB goes.

Over the past 4 years, the QBs and RBs have hampered the performance of the OL as much as the OL has hurt the play of the QBs and RBs. It is a flaw of our offense that the success of the run game is not only about the OL doing their jobs (often against a stacked box), but the QB executing the zone-read correctly.

When plays do not work because there are more defenders than blockers, you are not losing in the trenches. You are losing in the play-book. That is a fact.

Nobody is gonna look good until we get some offensive staff upgrades. It is so obvious the offensive coaches struggle. We are the only program in the country that cannot develop a single player that resembles big 12 qb. The guys we have were recruited by plenty of quality programs. Something is happening when they get here. I like the fact that you promote from within a staff, but that usually works best when something has been working under the previous coach.

What do we have to pay this johnny football to transfer to ISU?

I remember tailgating with some players parents earlier in the season and they were saying if Grant can get a little bigger and faster this season then he'll be our guy. He has the best arm of the 3, but he's the smallest. Hoping he's not still 185 lbs as it said in that video...

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Originally Posted by onenation

I remember tailgating with some players parents earlier in the season and they were saying if Grant can get a little bigger and faster this season then he'll be our guy. He has the best arm of the 3, but he's the smallest. Hoping he's not still 185 lbs as it said in that video...

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That would be as big as our scatbacks.

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Originally Posted by onenation

I remember tailgating with some players parents earlier in the season and they were saying if Grant can get a little bigger and faster this season then he'll be our guy. He has the best arm of the 3, but he's the smallest. Hoping he's not still 185 lbs as it said in that video...

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Current official roster has him listed as 6' 1", 208lbs, not that it is accurate. Would think he clearly has put on the proverbial freshman 15.

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Originally Posted by CarlHungus

Barnett looked good in his HS tape too. Lets slow down a bit; Rohach could be a stud, but I still liked what I saw from Richardson overall. He has some work to do, but if he ever gets good protection from the O-line then he could be a stud QB too

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I don't understand why some people are down on Sam. Against KU he might have played the best 3 quarters we've seen out of a qb in years. I know it's KU, but their defense was actually pretty decent at home. Against WVU Sam outplayed All-American Gino on a windy and cold day that made passing tough, and though he didn't play great against Tulsa, he was still our leading rusher while playing with the flu and a wet football. If Rohach gives him some competition, fine, but I feel good about the qb position with Sam out there.

I think what's most important here is that Richardson was clearly better than Jantz and Barnett....threw more accurately and ran very well. For myself, this means that if Rohach beats him out, we have made a significant upgrade at Quarterback. So we are moving in the right direction at our most critical position....and whoever wins the battle is going to be a solid player IMHO.

I like what I see out of Slingin' Sammy so far. If Rohach can beat him out for the starting job next season, I'll be just as happy.

Mesaclone is back? Sound the alarm!

I give him a week