Starting 22 for opener next season...maybe a couple of surprises?

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Originally Posted by State43

I hope Irving spends the whole season working on his explosiveness. He needs to get faster starts on snaps if he wants to accomplish anything, otherwise we mine as well move him to DT.

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Hook him up to a dogsled when he goes to class. Build some grit.

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Originally Posted by Wesley

Hook him up to a dogsled when he goes to class. Build some grit.

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​I see Rodney Coe starting over Irving next year. Or do you all think Coe will RS? If Coe does beat him out, will Irving RS or is it too late for him?

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Originally Posted by CYphyllis

I'd be willing to put money down that Duaron Williams isn't anywhere near the 2 deeps.

Any takers?

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Eh. Only reason I might agree with this is due to his injury. I hope to see him out there he was a good get for us

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Originally Posted by onenation

Eh. Only reason I might agree with this is due to his injury. I hope to see him out there he was a good get for us

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I've heard from guys close to the team that Williams is one of the worst players on the team. I'd wager that CYphyllis has heard the same. Sometimes good recruits don't amount to squat (Bo Williams).

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Originally Posted by Al_4_State

I've heard from guys close to the team that Williams is one of the worst players on the team. I'd wager that CYphyllis has heard the same. Sometimes good recruits don't amount to squat (Bo Williams).

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I've seen Williams around campus a lot. He still looks out of shape for where he should be by now. But maybe that has something to do with his knee.

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Originally Posted by CYphyllis

I'd be willing to put money down that Duaron Williams isn't anywhere near the 2 deeps.

Any takers?

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Sounds like a good business plan. There are some other redshirt freshmen next year that may have a chance though.

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I see Rodney Coe starting over Irving next year. Or do you all think Coe will RS? If Coe does beat him out, will Irving RS or is it too late for him?

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While I agree Irving desperately needs a redshirt year, it is not going to happen, and certainly not because Coe beats him out at DE. Coe will be the one redshirting imo.

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Originally Posted by Rhoadhoused

What about year two with two true sophomore starting LBs and losing Frere & Alburtis at DT along with Lyle at DE? Plus a starting corner (Banks) just like this year. The returning players were basically SS Sims, FS Sandvig, CB Johnson, DT Rump? DE Parker (was that his medical redshirt year?)

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"Losing" Kennard Banks was the greatest thing to happen to this program in years.

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Originally Posted by Al_4_State

I've heard from guys close to the team that Williams is one of the worst players on the team. I'd wager that CYphyllis has heard the same. Sometimes good recruits don't amount to squat (Bo Williams).

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Come on Al. He is one of the classier guys I follow on Twitter.

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Originally Posted by State43

Is Luke to slow to play safety or is his heart just set on LB? Seems size wise that safety is a better suited spot for him.

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Hes going to be the hybrid LB, which is essentially a third safety.

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Originally Posted by cycloneNATEion

WR: West
WR: Bundrage
WR: Gary
RB: White
QB: Richardson
TE: Brun (Bibbs)
LT: Gannon
LG: Tuftee
C: Farniok
RG: Big Dawg
RT: Lichtenberg
DE: Irving (Morrissey #2)
DT: Aka
NG: Jensen
DE: Scott
SLB: Broomfield
MLB: George
WLB: Miller
CB: Watson
FS: Washington
SS: Brackens
CB: Richardson/Thomas/Stokes
K: Cole NettenBiggest question...... Who is the new holder!?!?????!! No more Bueker :(

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better question... did bueker mishandle that snap on purpose on the fg attempt so that he could throw his first and only career pass???

Our DL is in trouble if Woods and/or Jenson are the starters. They are nice depth players to have take some snaps, but they aren't Big12 starters. We need some of the young talent to step up here and be three or four year starters.

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Our DL is in trouble if Woods and/or Jenson are the starters. They are nice depth players to have take some snaps, but they aren't Big12 starters. We need some of the young talent to step up here and be three or four year starters.

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Totally agree. Jensen gets blown off the ball constantly. For all the talk of the depth they had this year, only McDonough and Laing were solid players. Durbin was a decent pass rusher. At LB, I thought that George was bad and Miller was atrocious. IMO if either Jensen or Miller are starting, the D is really going to struggle. I think that the only way for the D to be decent next year is if some of the RSFR (Bevins, Aka, Cousins, Meyers, Knott, White, Rogers) step up. Otherwise, they're not going to be able to stop anyone. On the other hand, I have higher hopes for the offense. I think that the OL will be improved, the QB can't be worse (more of a true competition than picking lesser evils), Wimberly will add some explosiveness to RB, the WRs will be better and two TE sets with Bibbs will help both running and in the screen game. IMO the team's success all depends on a group of RSFR stepping up on Defense.

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Originally Posted by Frak

Totally agree. Jensen gets blown off the ball constantly. For all the talk of the depth they had this year, only McDonough and Laing were solid players. Durbin was a decent pass rusher. At LB, I thought that George was bad and Miller was atrocious. IMO if either Jensen or Miller are starting, the D is really going to struggle. I think that the only way for the D to be decent next year is if some of the RSFR (Bevins, Aka, Cousins, Meyers, Knott, White, Rogers) step up. Otherwise, they're not going to be able to stop anyone. On the other hand, I have higher hopes for the offense. I think that the OL will be improved, the QB can't be worse (more of a true competition than picking lesser evils), Wimberly will add some explosiveness to RB, the WRs will be better and two TE sets with Bibbs will help both running and in the screen game. IMO the team's success all depends on a group of RSFR stepping up on Defense.

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I think you can only make statements about Miller and Jensen based on their performances thus far in their career, who is to say they will not get after it in the off-season and improve where they lack?? As Sophmores AK and JK were not all-world, same with Laing and McD, I remember saying similar thinks about them going into there Junior years, the biggest improvement for all occurred from Soph to Junior year, with the MCD making huge strides going into his senior year....

Miller has room to improve significantly. I wouldn't expect huge improvements from Jenson. He can get a little better, but he is what he is. Depth.

QB-Sam Richardson
Backup: Jared Barnett (if he stays after the spring)

RB-Rotation of Shontrelle Johnson, James White, and Aaron Wimberly. Woody will be the hammer on short yardage situations.

WRs-Albert Gary, Jarvis West, Quenton Bundrage, Dondre Daley...could see a LOT of guys getting looks at WR. Only for sure starter is West, in my opinion.

TE-Ernst Brun

LT-Jake Campos
LG-Ethan Tuftee
C-Tom Farniok
RG-Kyle Lichtenberg
RT-Jake Gannon

K-Edwin Arceo
P-Kirby Vanderkemp


DE-Willie Scott
DT-Brandon Jensen
DT-Walter Woods
DE-David Irving
SLB-Jevohn Miller
WLB-Jeremiah George
Nickel-Deon Broomfield
CB- Matt Watson
CB- Clinton Stokes
FS- Jacques Washington
SS-Jared Brackens

Captains- Jacques Washington, Ethan Tuftee, Kirby Vanderkemp, Deon Broomfield

If there was a year where Paul Rhoads proves the theorists like Phil Steele right with a bad record, it's probably next year.