Impressive: Paul Rhoads' first year win total at a school that is used to winning 2 games in a coach's first year.
Impressive: Going to a bowl game 3/4 times in his first 4 years as head coach at ISU
Impressive: Doing all of this against at least 3 top 5 schedules in the nation.
Not impressive: ISU hasn't taken the next step as quickly as Baylor, OSU, Texas Tech, ect have previously done in their rebuilding moves
Not impressive: 1-2 bowl record, with two really bad showings
Not impressive: Three bowl games, but the minimum amount of wins each season to get to a bowl game with 6-6 records.
Basically, Rhoads has an outrageously high floor for wins as a coach at ISU, but an average ceiling so far. Hopefully time is all he needs to raise that ceiling, and the new improvements to the program in stadium atmosphere, scoreboard, and the football only facility help to push it up as high as possible.
I don't think 6 wins is acceptable forever, but he still has 2 more years for me before I start to legitimately question if he can take the next step.
Gonzo you are a typical Hawk fan, living in the past, the glory days of KF are long gone, you bring up the last 10 years because it serves your purpose, I'll bring up the last 15 in which ISU has 9 wins and UI has 6. ISU has a 2 game winning streak currently with a good chance of it extended next year.
Aren't you the guy bragging about the undergrad programs at UofI? Which begs me to ask the question, which one of them is your degree in? Kirkwood to my knowledge isn't affiliated with the Uof I and therefore doesn't count.
Point is Iowa/ISU has become a great rivalry. Glory days of KF may be long gone, I'll grant you that. We'll see. Next year will probably be a dogfight, like the last few.
Not sure what you mean about bragging about Iowa undergrad programs. All I've ever said on that is that ISU excels in certain academic fields at the undergrad level, and Iowa excels at others. If I want to be a veterinarian, graphic designer, or an engineer, I'm going to ISU. If I want to go into business, the arts, law, communications, I'll go to Iowa. And yes, my degree is from Iowa.
1. It's the Rag and not an eastern paper.
2. 1977 (series resumes iirc) is 19 seasons removed from Iowa's last bowl (1959 Rose win). Also, ISU had been to bowls in 71 and 72 and Bruce put them in the Peach Bowl that year ('77). Maybe ISU piggybacked off of the NU and OU success of the '70's and was truly more popular at this time? It's not that hard to believe that Pitt was more popular than PSU for those couple years when Majors was there and won an NC.
Regardless, Fry completely and totally destroyed any momentum Majors and Bruce had built with the help of inept ISU head coaches and ADs.
You still hear fans talk about riding the train across Iowa to get to Iowa games,and they told it to their kids and grandkids. Nevermind if the games or team were any good, they had a good time. We need to keep the experience of games and tailgating to get the fans.