7 commits in 7 days?

**Jeremy** · 01-30-2008, 07:50 PM

Well I never said it had anything to do with CF but the staff has documented several instances where other media outlets reported on visits and such of recruits and then the following day the recruit's phone rings off the hook with other schools that hadn't previously heard of the kid or at the very least given him much interest. There have been several this year where coaches, especially those in their first year at the schools, have started using online resources almost exclusively to track other school's recruiting to "poach from".

I understand you may think it's an excuse but when you start to realize the way things have changed and how integral the internet is to everything, you'll start believing that it can happen and has happened to ISU, numerous times. If this isn't the case, why do you think all of us would be silent at the same time when there is big news to report? It's not because we don't think people are interested in the info.

**guitarchitect7** · 01-30-2008, 07:55 PM

Well I believe almost all the coaches interviewed this year have stated how much the internet has played a huge role, or impacted the university far more than it ever has. It's no sercret and is really unfortunate, but its no different than those gossip magazines.

And those darn "bowl" games that have recruits making announcements and acting like a hollywood stars to me shows no respect for maybe one of the most important decision these kids make in their lives.

**ISUFan22** · 01-30-2008, 07:57 PM

I'd be completely ok with recruiting discussions being outlawed not only here - but everywhere.

**NU Follower** · 01-30-2008, 07:59 PM

Jeremy,

Can you give an example or two of this happening? Just a couple of examples would be great. Thanks

**Aclone** · 01-30-2008, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by NU Follower

Jeremy,

Can you give an example or two of this happening? Just a couple of examples would be great. Thanks

Dude, it's not hard to guess.

Or did you think that East Carolina had heard of Josh Jordan in small town Louisiana?

Was it a sheer coincidence that the moment Joe King was supposed to have comitted that Texas Tech jumped in?

Leonard Johnson is listed as a commit--then Michigan wants a visit?

Jared Edwards is listed as an undersized offensive lineman--then when his mom says online that he's strictly a defensive end--Georgia Tech calls?

Would you like me to include David Grant? The list goes on...

**NU Follower** · 01-30-2008, 08:33 PM

Aclone, I'm talking about players that ISU uncovered and then another school then swooped in and stole. I'm pretty sure others schools were recruiting all of the players you listed prior to them committing to and decommiting from ISU.

I know Nebraska had been in contact with David Grant all summer long. NU then filled up with OL recruits during the season. NU had at one time prior to Callahan's firing: (1) 5 star (3) 4 star OL commits. All three 4 star guys decommited and NU's interest in Grant increased greatly.

That's why I was interested in these players that ISU is interested in that no one else knows about. I find that very hard to believe in today's world of recruiting. If ISU has all these players that no other school in the nation knows about, then as a fan, I would be very concerned about the recruiting ability of the current coaching staff.

**Jeremy** · 01-30-2008, 08:37 PM

It's not that we had players that nobody had heard of, it's that we had players that were much better than they were initially billed. The problem doesn't come from great players that we're recruiting - it comes from the diamonds in the rough that others find out about or in players that had previously committed somewhere and then reopened their recruiting and ISU was high on their list. The list Aclone has above shows some good examples but and there are others as well. I really don't care if you believe me or not - I have absolutely no reason to lie, nor does Paul Clark or any of the other people holding back information by request. This is the absolute key time to report on recruits and you think we're just all holding back for ***** and giggles?

**NU Follower** · 01-30-2008, 08:40 PM

Ahhhh, the silent commit. Yeah, I've heard of those. Good luck

**ripvdub** · 01-30-2008, 08:41 PM

I like to follow recruiting on here and other sites, but if it means losing as many recruits as we did this year, i'd be all for some restrictions. But I think CF is the least of ISU's problem if this is true. Its the sites with databases, rankings and camps. But then again these also help the coaches too.

**Jeremy** · 01-30-2008, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by NU Follower

Ahhhh, the silent commit. Yeah, I've heard of those. Good luck

I guess I don't understand your attitude on this subject. If we've been asked not to release info for the good of the University, even if that's going against what would typical be done during this time, why would anybody lie about it? I'm as understanding of differences in opinion and that type of thing but there are times when there's no argument to be made, you just look like a fool for thinking there's a conspiracy.

I guess I might as well shut up though because there's usually no reasoning with somebody that's a Nebraska fan. After all, this world only exists for all of us to share in the glory that is Cornhusker tradition

**ajk4st8** · 01-30-2008, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

I'd be completely ok with recruiting discussions being outlawed not only here - but everywhere.

Some of us degenerates like recruiting. If you dont like.. dont read:)

**ISUFan22** · 01-30-2008, 08:50 PM

I don't like it - but mostly for what we're seeing these days. The commit, decommit, commit, decommit stuff is mayhem.

But the worst of it is illustrated here - the news gets out and hurts us. That is by far the biggest reason it would be good if that info went away.

**kingcy** · 01-30-2008, 09:21 PM

Stealing of commited players happens. Ask Coach Chizik about doing it at Texas. How many time do I have to post what he said about how Texas fills out there list by singing day. If Texas is a player or two short they look around at who schools like ISU, Iowa, and others have commited, they go in at the last min, and offer a commited kid from another school, they think will fit what they need. Schools do miss kids for one reason or another, and decide at the last moment to offer some of those misses. Heck Wes Johnson was a huge miss by Texas in Basketball.

**guitarchitect7** · 01-30-2008, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by ajk4st8

Some of us degenerates like recruiting. If you dont like.. dont read:)

This is the realistic reasoning.

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

I don't like it - but mostly for what we're seeing these days. The commit, decommit, commit, decommit stuff is mayhem.

But the worst of it is illustrated here - the news gets out and hurts us. That is by far the biggest reason it would be good if that info went away.

This is the unrealistic hope.

What I'm trying to say is I completely agree on both accounts depending on the context their taken. In a perfect world, nothing gets leaked, but all get to enjoy the journey that is recruiting.

Unfortunately this isn't the case and so the logical solution would be to just cut this stuff off. But then you take away what others do enjoy; a no win situation.

Whats even more difficult is there is not middle area. Either you do or don't cover. It isn't about the commits, it's just about the interest, the visits. It doesn't matter if the recruit even has a bit of interest at that point in time, but if it wasn't for the publicity, they just might later on. We just never get the chance to find out.