7 commits in 7 days?

**tejasclone** · 01-31-2008, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by ISU_Alum_2000

Are you from Sacramento? I have a friend from there, and spend plenty of time there for work, and they use "hella" like the rest of the country uses "really".

It's hella weird.

Originally Posted by ISU BET

i got sacramento friends who use it all the time too. that is hella weird.

You guys are hella lame.

**RedStorm** · 01-31-2008, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by Jeremy

There are several others that are in the bag and a bunch more that are still being worked on. The only reason you aren't seeing the additional names on the list is because all of us involved have been asked not to let any info get out. There have been numerous cases already this year where recruits have been stolen from us only because info got out about the recruits and other schools came in after the fact. You'll start seeing more info in a couple days but I for one am following through on the request not to leak anything until signing day and I know others are so far following the request as well.

Jeremy - I think it is great that you, and Paul Clark, are doing this. It is fun getting the info but I would rather have the coaches get the recruits. I also think it shows allot of respect towards the repsective web sites that the Athletic Department reached out to you - and you siad "hey nor problem".- very cool of you and Paul.

**Aclone** · 01-31-2008, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by NU Follower

Ahhhh, the silent commit. Yeah, I've heard of those. Good luck

No, it isn't the "silent commit" phenomenon.

Let's put it this way. Identifying a prospect is a very time/labor intensive proposition, from watching at least half an hour of video to in-school, in-home, and unofficial and official campus visits. At every school, including those as rich as Texas, those are finite resources--sometimes only because of NCAA legislated limits. However, every staff only has so much time to spend identifying prospects.

Then there is the internet, where the recruiting services identify thousands upon thousands of prospects. Sure, there are well known standouts, but how do you discriminate between the borderline guys, and the hidden gems, the guys who simply don't have the glowing publicity, who play at a school or in a conference that isn't blanketed by recruiters? Sure, lots of these guys are mentioned by Rivals or Scout.com, even three stars, but to a large extent, that doesn't really mean anything. Even big schools simply can't look at them all.

However, there is one last discriminator, one final threshold to trigger interest. That's when a player suddenly shows up as "committed" to a school like Iowa State. That gives the power schools pause, makes them say, "what is it in this guy that makes Iowa State, makes Chizik think that he can play Big XII football? We had better look more closely, invest some of that valuable evaluation time...

And more times than not, it seems, they find that they like what they are seeing. And Gene Chizik's staff loses all of the time and labor they have invested.

So right now, Jeremy, Paul and company are keeping their mouths shut. Why? It isn't as if recruiting scoops won't sell subscriptions, boost hits and advertising. However, in the long run, a successful team on the field is a much more profitable proposition.

And yes, there is another example. Sedrick Johnson was lost in the coaching transition at A&M. A talented wideout, the staff was apparently so busy getting settled that no one had thought to call him. So he reopened his recruiting. Lo and behold, no sooner does he announce this, no sooner is he on the verge of a visit to Iowa State than he gets a call from Sherman's staff. Whether the A&M staff saw the info online, or a worried or irate alum gave them the heads up, someone decided that Johnson needed tending.

And no, I'm no insider. Not hardly. My contacts in Ames evaporated years ago, and I don't subscribe anywhere. Just interpreting the picture...

**Steve** · 01-31-2008, 10:14 AM

It's revealing to me that since CR & CF have been quiet on the recruiting front, there have been no updates from sources such as Lemming, Hodge, & CSTV. It'd hard to recycle information when the original sources dry up.

**4429 mcc** · 01-31-2008, 10:25 AM

And we've almost come full circle...the sweet and the sour...the pleasure and the pain. The internet once again is the best thing and the worst thing to happen to mankind and cyclone football.

**RedStorm** · 01-31-2008, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Aclone

No, it isn't the "silent commit" phenomenon.

Let's put it this way. Identifying a prospect is a very time/labor intensive proposition, from watching at least half an hour of video to in-school, in-home, and unofficial and official campus visits. At every school, including those as rich as Texas, those are finite resources--sometimes only because of NCAA legislated limits. However, every staff only has so much time to spend identifying prospects.

Then there is the internet, where the recruiting services identify thousands upon thousands of prospects. Sure, there are well known standouts, but how do you discriminate between the borderline guys, and the hidden gems, the guys who simply don't have the glowing publicity, who play at a school or in a conference that isn't blanketed by recruiters? Sure, lots of these guys are mentioned by Rivals or Scout.com, even three stars, but to a large extent, that doesn't really mean anything. Even big schools simply can't look at them all.

However, there is one last discriminator, one final threshold to trigger interest. That's when a player suddenly shows up as "committed" to a school like Iowa State. That gives the power schools pause, makes them say, "what is it in this guy that makes Iowa State, makes Chizik think that he can play Big XII football? We had better look more closely, invest some of that valuable evaluation time...

And more times than not, it seems, they find that they like what they are seeing. And Gene Chizik's staff loses all of the time and labor they have invested.

So right now, Jeremy, Paul and company are keeping their mouths shut. Why? It isn't as if recruiting scoops won't sell subscriptions, boost hits and advertising. However, in the long run, a successful team on the field is a much more profitable proposition.

And yes, there is another example. Sedrick Johnson was lost in the coaching transition at A&M. A talented wideout, the staff was apparently so busy getting settled that no one had thought to call him. So he reopened his recruiting. Lo and behold, no sooner does he announce this, no sooner is he on the verge of a visit to Iowa State than he gets a call from Sherman's staff. Whether the A&M staff saw the info online, or a worried or irate alum gave them the heads up, someone decided that Johnson needed tending.

And no, I'm no insider. Not hardly. My contacts in Ames evaporated years ago, and I don't subscribe anywhere. Just interpreting the picture...

And for "NU follower"....lets not forget NU swooping in and taking Grant.....who was committed to ISU.

**Omaha Cy** · 02-02-2008, 10:51 AM

i do believe one thing that some schools will have players on the back burner, and plan to wait it out and see how thier class comes around before making a committ to some of these so-called "diamons in the rough".

Then when its leaked that these players are visiting somewhere or what have you, the coaches feel the need to swoop in and try and steal.

maybe im off base, but i think thats how a portion of recruiting works. Im also sure that in recruiting theres players missed and coaches keep tabs on other schools to see whats slipped thru the cracks.

So while message boards might be the fault of this, the media would be at the epicenter of it all.

**ripvdub** · 02-02-2008, 11:07 AM

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**Landshark** · 02-02-2008, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by Jeremy

You'll start seeing more info in a couple days but I for one am following through on the request not to leak anything until signing day and I know others are so far following the request as well.

I've noticed on CR the natives are getting restless lately and Paul's been pretty mum, so I would assume he's not leaking either.

**Landshark** · 02-02-2008, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by 4429 mcc

And we've almost come full circle...the sweet and the sour...the pleasure and the pain. The internet once again is the best thing and the worst thing to happen to mankind and cyclone football.

Steve Czaban says "email" will be the death of mankind.

**ripvdub** · 02-02-2008, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by Landshark

Steve Czaban says "email" will be the death of mankind.

Doesnt he have about 3 or so things that will will be the downfall of mankind as we know it? I would remember what the were if damn KXNO wouldnt play reruns of Dan Patrick in the morning instead of the Czab.

Also, good for Paul Clark and others not spilling the beans on potential recruits. Hopefully Chiz. can hook them up with some exclusives this summer.

**cybot** · 02-03-2008, 09:45 PM

I'm calling BS on all this "keep the recruits silent" bull. We are Iowa State and if these so called recruits were any good they be the target of several schools. Are you saying that Chiz is some kind of wonder recruiter. He can see things that other schools can't. I'm not buying it. If a recruit is any good several schools know about him. Be prepared for a major let down on signing day.

Why are we losing so many recruits at this stage of the game?