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Old 02-07-2008, 04:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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"C-" from ESPN...

ESPN - Oklahoma, Texas post top-10 classes - Insider

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Old 02-07-2008, 04:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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yeah, just came over here to post that... can't argue too much in comparison to the 5 and 4 star laden classes of the big boys. But I still like our boys... Come on football season!!! :)

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Old 02-07-2008, 04:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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suprised they didn't comment on Bo Williams
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Old 02-07-2008, 04:21 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: "C-" from ESPN...

If your grading on recruiting, why not grade from the prepective of filling needs or what is reasonably expected. We needed a foundation to build off of. Were we going to get all 4 & 5 star commits...NO. So how can they grade based on that.

I'd give us a B based on the talent we actually had a chance on landing. We would have scored higher if the decommits didnt decommit.

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Old 02-07-2008, 04:26 PM   #5 (permalink)
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If your grading on recruiting, why not grade from the prepective of filling needs or what is reasonably expected. We needed a foundation to build off of. Were we going to get all 4 & 5 star commits...NO. So how can they grade based on that.

I'd give us a B based on the talent we actually had a chance on landing. We would have scored higher if the decommits didnt decommit.
I agree there should be a difference between a "grade" and a ranking. I wouldnt neccesarily rank our class high but I would grade it in the B range based on what we are trying to get done and the needs we filled.
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Old 02-07-2008, 04:28 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by 4429 mcc View Post
If your grading on recruiting, why not grade from the prepective of filling needs or what is reasonably expected. We needed a foundation to build off of. Were we going to get all 4 & 5 star commits...NO. So how can they grade based on that.

I'd give us a B based on the talent we actually had a chance on landing. We would have scored higher if the decommits didnt decommit.

My thoughts exactly, did anybody actually think we were going to compete with Texas and Oklahoma for the top recruiting classes in the big 12? Apparently ESPN did, and graded us as such.

This isnt the NFL draft, we just cant take the best player on the board with our picks. I think based on our situation, a "B" is a good grade.




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Old 02-07-2008, 04:41 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I like C-. Less Expectation is always good.

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Old 02-07-2008, 04:52 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Who would take an analysis by espn seriously anyway. For one, they are so East Coast and big eleven biased that I can only take any analysis with a grain of salt. Just show me the games and keep their opinions to themselves is what I say. "Opinions are like ********, everyones got one and everyone thinks everyone elses stinks".
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Old 02-07-2008, 04:57 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I love our guys because they wanted to be Cyclones. I can't wait to cheer for these guys on the field and that wouldn't change no matter the number of stars by their name.
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Old 02-07-2008, 05:20 PM   #10 (permalink)
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IMO, this recruiting class is very underrated. We have several players that are "diamonds in the rough" so to speak.

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Old 02-07-2008, 05:20 PM   #11 (permalink)
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All football coaches "Recruit To Need"....I think that this recruiting class is a very good solid class and will be a good foundation to build upon!!


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Old 02-07-2008, 05:40 PM   #12 (permalink)
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C's get degrees.
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Old 02-07-2008, 05:50 PM   #13 (permalink)
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this grading means nothing, It only matters during game time.

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Old 02-07-2008, 05:57 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: "C-" from ESPN...

Originally Posted by 4429 mcc View Post
If your grading on recruiting, why not grade from the prepective of filling needs or what is reasonably expected. We needed a foundation to build off of. Were we going to get all 4 & 5 star commits...NO. So how can they grade based on that.
Usually relative grading scales like you propose draw quite a bit of ire...

ISU is in the Big 12. I have no problem being graded against our peers...

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Old 02-07-2008, 05:59 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Re: "C-" from ESPN...

I will refer you to this thread and the article linked in it, it makes some very good points about rankings, stars and grades.

http://www.cyclonefanatic.com/forum/...-rankings.html (A REAL newspaper does story about recruit rankings)

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